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Episode · 1 year ago

Episode 23 Bumps and Bruises of the ATL (feat. James Davison)

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This week we go over all the interesting events of NASCAR’s first trip to Atlanta. With the crazy post Xfinity race situation and the much needed true and confidence builder win YRB got this weekend beaten the unstoppable man of the day Kyle Larson.

We were also pleased to have James Davison join the podcast this week! Giving a great insight on what it’s like running where he does in the Cup field along with his limited time in Indycar so far. 

Be sure to check us out here on YouTube and on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Along with on instagram @thenascarhotspot

What are you doing? Burgers and prizes and over that. All right, I'll go. You don't come up with your crea for you to get a try burger. No, you just drawn is arizon time. Time someone walks up, I hope they get a cheeseburger or a hot dog because it's so easy to like Getta the table. Thing much. I literally predicted him the last week to not win a racist whole the season, and then he goes out and win the race by beating treggs. That's so annoying. That sounds like a you problem, and only you problem like this. Literally no one else. I so I see you get just started. Are we going to do the normal like news and then review? Yeah, yeah, we can just do the normal news in them view. Um God, we get to talk about Bristol preview. Hello, the news. Forgot about that. Yeah, we get to talk about the Bristol preview. I'm excited for that. I'm also on Matho at the same time. Yeah, I miss you like a high. Well, I'm like, all right now, I'll just save it for member actually talking about it. Um, no that we start off the news with pret surprising news. They came out last week I'm start freezing. It's going to make his cup Suis debut with spier motor sports in the just a dirt race this coming weekend, of course, with the norm sponsor of Hammar, which was the team he races for in trucks, and he's a very skilled dirt racer. He's made his name in Nascar and all dr racing around the country countries, being a very talented dirt racers. So I think this is a really smart decision for spire to make a cup debut in a dirt race. I mean, you can go on before I go into any stores. Yeah, it's it's a smart move, I think. I don't I don't expect him to run top ten, but I do think he could maybe sneak in a top twenty. Five, top twenty for sure. I think you could put in a top fifteen. I mean, I don't expect I don't expect a lot of these guys to. I don't expect a lot of them to perform next week at all. Yeah, so, I mean you got to realize some of these guys are just making their first dirt races this week only. So they've only got like very little time practice. Yeah, there's only about eight guys that actually have experience on dirt. Cope. Sorry, Nick, good and then I was fine. I think he gains. I think you got top twenty. I mean he's inspire equipment, so it's not like top, top tier, but hey, it's not like bad equipment, I would say. And be it's also on dirt, which is such a wild card. You don't really know who's going to be able to front who's going to be back. So I think there's a smart move. I think I should do pretty well, but you never knows. We'll find out. Yeah, Um. So, continuing on the dirt race, of course many cup drivers with a very limited experience in on dirt. We'll be going down to the truck series for the burst of dirt race and the names and cut the names include Kevin Harvard, has already been reported on. It was announced last week, but also we got a lot of new names entering it. Mike Snyder, who isn't he's an exfinity driver, but he still counts a bubble alls. Ryan Newman is going to be in it and Daniels wars is another one's going to be in it, and also way have the experienced veteran of their, of Kyle arson. It's also going to be pretty much stealing a win. We all know he's just going to steal the win in trucks and I think that's a bad at for the guys going down to truck series. Oh and also true x, he's in making his first truck start since sale six this weekend in the truckers. So we're going to be a lot of we're going to see a lot of truck guys and I don't know last time this many cup guys have been truck race but I don't remember time like for particular race. Honestly, how many entries are there for the truck race? Because I feel like there's so many. I think I'd forty, forty two, hundred, forty three, a lot like thirty seven, I think. So they can raise for forty, but they're doing eight races to yeah, well, they're pretty pretty to make it since there's practice qualifying. So it's not going to be forty truck field, it's going to be third field, thirty two. Thirty two, Parker said that it's going to be the forty truck field is thirty five through the heat races based on points system on finishing and passing points and then five provisionals on two thousand and twenty one owner points. Baskar's got to make you confusing. Well, it's basically saying like the top thirty five guys in the YASIS. Yeah, say...

...like, I don't know, Ben Rhodes Rex in the heat races. He'll be in the race, basically something like that, and we're johnny or John Hunter, Nima check. They'll be in the actual race on Saturday. But if my snyder actually is not in it, no, actually, that's like we'd clash in the duels and everything I got. Yeah, so before I make it to the actual dirt Bristol burst of there, we're going to be going. Did it in provitational series and Irason that that season is going to be starting. It's going to be starting this week and the full jury list has been released, but pretty much it's the top thirty five, top thirty six charter teams and then for extra like Um guys that Fox and I guess a couple like fans or whatever, get to pick out. So Dale Jr is of course keeps that. Yeah, they'll be on the first. I mean, are we surprised? Were We surprised by that? The man base. Yeah, it's like a spokesperson, right, drop if you drunk one an I yeah, he did. Almost went homestead an. Yeah, there's a photo punish. Maybe I don't care about the racing at all. Oh, I'm not gonna think. I think I'm only excited for this week. That might be the only one I'm watch it. I watch it because junior's in him but like, it's not something I'll meet. It won't be like anything. I'm up pretty sure before Jr Ann stay, you said I'm not going to watch any of them. Yeah, it's NASTARD. Watch it, Bro I mean is it's really there's that's all that matters, all right, okay, yeah, and I think Fox kind of like hinted this, but has been announced. But I think the Clinton boys going to be another one of the drivers, but I could be wrong. Are We surprised by that? Honestly, were one? Gordon's going to be another would make it's not one of them. Howard, it's not good on there. Have you seen that man run? God, not good on their bulliard. Know, I get on there. Yeah, it's going to be on. That's the only thing. Yeah, video games do a better job at projecting physics under than the actual sports that do it. You know that only do it once a year, Nascar. Um, there's a lot. Another little piece of news I got released today. Larson got another sponsor, Friday liner. I thought, yeah, it was annouce a while where. Yeah, I don't think. I don't think. Yeah, Oh, I thought I thought it was on. They just it's pretty blacked. His schemes are so full to change. They're using it, using the same design but which is different colors. I don't really lacking. Look at it. It's better than Eric Jones is freeman a seam for couple years. You remember that? Where is it all? God, yeah, that was yes, I kind of give me. She's being throwback at Darlington. Oh Yeah, yeah, that one. Shit, it's okay. I don't mind all white. I would say I hate it. Sometimes white schemes can be like, I guess it. I guess all white schemes depend on what the number, but the numbers looking like that's the biggest thing with all white schemes. I feel like when you're come into a plane, scheme playing schemes typically look pretty good. I'd say like they're not super I catchy. But problem I with Warson and that whole five schemes whatever. They use the same exact scheme like pattern every single car. So annoying to would you only have when you only have two actual sponsors and the rest are or the other two aren't get some sponsorsh said the n word. I still like the Hendred cars schemes on the right. I'm not sorrying like this boring. I'm boring. I mean remember when they remember when they teased, you know, like and obviously it was way early, and it was just a plain red car with the blue number and looked awful for like all the merchandising. It was just I kind of remember it. It was very bad. It was. I'm so how when they were doing a media day before the season and we didn't know what Larson scheme would look like and he had just a it was like an all black fire suit with nothing on it.

Yeah, and then the images leaked of him with the Blue and red and we're like all right, we know what the scheme is going to be before they even release the scheme. So is it time to talk about truck series? First truck series. Boring cowbush tights that rested. Okay, they're gonna go over a quick dude. Literally, only that it all that happened. That right, think it? Yeah, it was, dude, it was. It was a watch before after that. It was a very poor waste of my time. Literally, cowbush dominate the race, gave John Hunter the stages, because I still haven't wants to replay. I've heard many things about that, but try kyle gave John Hunter the playoff points by letting him win the stages and then he was like all right, final stage by that's basically what happened. It was it. It's not illegal. Technically it's not. I don't know. It was just morning. Oh my God, there was no autions for incident. Yeah, that's where I'm saying. Good, Oh my God, I have to go through nothing, to go through with that race. Yeah, yeah, that's about it. Okay, it don't enough notable finishers. I think the top ten is pretty basic. The top ten seemed pretty basic. Been Thoo George. It's a top twenty kind of notable. Its struck me, man, that like fifteen to forty. It could be anything sometimes. Let me look. Pretty much. Raffle is, sorry, was out. Oh yeah, he was not existent. That was the one thing. He was not existent. He just is. My they just had a bad set up and just couldn't. Where did he finish? Bad? Nine, yeah, yeah, and then also problem. Yeah, and then the the lesters. One off return. He got thirty six. They have a problem at all on the race? Or was it kind of just like speed? I didn't hear his name at all in the race. I mean, if we're going for real, we all expected like yeah, I do well, it's kind of cool to like have them there. Yeah, it's like a trophy, kind of a Stewart for what is happening. Stewart freezing should have finished. No, he had. He ended up getting back up. You gotta See ten. But yeah, he was, but he was running about third a lot of the race. Yeah, but it's good. That is good to see him get more used to tell, because you could tell last year that the transition wasn't as now the dreams I wish. So, yeah, it's good that he's happy for me and Kating. That's good. It's good to see competition in the truck series because without it it's just sore sport versus GMS. Firstus KBM, like that's it. So it's good to see a little bit more competition and the drund a race that's heavily favorites and coming up. I would think you should be one of the favorites. Why? Like himmer? Larson? Yeah, he's definitely going to be a contentions. Can you go away on Larson has just annoyed me this season. I don't even done anything bad. He hasn't done anything bad. Are you just mad that he's finally in top tier equipment and is showing why he's yeah, imagine, yeah, when Eric Jones wasn't tapped here equipment. He didn't even do this. Okay, trucks, togus points real quick. So since kind was one kind of like nothing changed in the lock position. So Nima, check Rhodes are still are the only ones locked in. Still showed them creeds plus sixty two, Matt craft and plus fifty three start free since plus thirty, Austin Hells plus twenty three. Johnny Sawder is having a better season last year. Sadly, he's just eleven. I mean in my dress. Sorry, I can't stand journey. So yeah, one, just one common I had. I don't know, maybe it's just me not noticing him. But I feel like Austin hills really been like a non factor this year. Will he finished sacking in the race? Yeah, but other than that, I mean like Las, he's up chair wasn't al. I mean he won those, but he wont the Regular Season Champ last year. But he disappeared feel good last year. Like I mean I knew he was like consistently give it through the regular but you didn't actually feel like the best, you know, I got feel like they were drivers way better than him. But I mean it's showed him. My off said when he didn't make the final four last year. Last year I felt like weed was the guy and he ended up getting it done. Yeah, we didn't really come on until the summer though. Yeah, but then when he did, yeah, everyone kind of just was like all right, Shit. So yeah, I um speaking a GMS. Eight is Zane Smith. He is plus seven above the cut line. Nine is granting finger. He's plus five, and then Ted...

...is Carson Joe Savar, who is hanging on you. It's plus one of the cut line over Chandler Smith. He was one point behind the cut line, and then Todd Gillen is four points behind cut line. Brett MOFFAT is thirteen, five point bullet cut line and ice like. The other notable below that is Raphael Asari's thirty one bullet cut line eighteen. Wow, yeah, he's had his heads a bad luck. I see. Yeah, hopefully can pull you. This was like the first weekend. He really didn't show any speed, though, like the rest of again, every weekend he's had the extreme speed. He's a had like top ten, top five even speed. Yeah, it's something just doesn't go his way, like they ton a road course. He was. He was fast. I remember that. Yeah, well, know, this week when I was watching it in it might have been because the transmission problems, the trend there. That might have been before I even started watching the race, because I turned it down about halfway through stage two. He's already a couple laps down and was just slow. He almost wasn't moving. Chicane, I mean not as bad as norm bending was because, oh my God, I thought about got ran over. At what point? Speed right up, don't yet. Yeah, that's because he used to slow. That's car print. Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I saw a tweet saying that. It's like, I mean betting's never like a pub. He's not usually have that, normally that bad. He wasn't a spark for being just a little but like he's never at that good. Yeah, but he's not easy like a hazard. Now he's experienced enough to like. Sorry, I just saw the end of the Michigan game. Nothing else really happened truck race. I don't know if there's anything else to really touch on there. Yeah, the Jay's beat the Tigers. Yeah, I forgot about that. Baseball or the truck race? What can you should get into baseball to know I can't watch baseball. Baseball still worn. No, you didn't get it, Elis, I watched hockey before, I just didn't watch it religiously. Yeah, Baseball's born. I can't watch baseball. Oh, I went to one baseball game when I was like seven. It was last baseball game I ever went to. Baseball. Baseball Fun live. I enjoy it. Well, I like I enjoyed playing it as taxing to watch live. That's it. That's I can't watch this. For me it's good, like it's relaxing and exciting. That's why I feel like it's good, because you can just like sit there and chill. But also, as Parias and relaxing and mas I I had before I moved to free hold. I had my mining league team that was like based in town I lived in. I used to go take the game a couple times. Even so, they s finity race was a little bit bad. Her I think it was the best race of the weekend. Yeah, I think so on that. Yeah, I think it had. It had okay racing and I think the other racing for the other two races were just bad in general. Why don't have skip ahead? But the post race was the best part of this one. Let's be really yeah, obvious. That's true. Yeah, so we're going to start in the beginning. Martin trix JR, his first expense starts his two thousand and ten. He starts eighteen and who walked? He takes the lead. All HADOM's dancing until we get later on in the race. He didn't speed on everyone. I'll let you. Oh, yeah, they tell you went like five months old. I was like holy how do you know? You well, they use like this, don't they use, Um, a different dash and extrinity than they which one uses digital because it's that cost. One extinis more analog. It's yeah, yeah, yeah, I know long and I I well, there's that nothing really happened. Tricks sweat this first two stages, and there's that big rack which I don't even know what happened. I just know Brandon Jones got turned and could not say sideway. So Brett MOFFAT UM was trying to like keep pretty much like cleared himself, like he was trying to pull behind Jones and he wasn't clear of them any just tag Junes, word to panel and Jones went spinning, taking up bret mouth and bread mofat before. That was a top five car. He was having a really good run for a team. He was top fives in underrated exfinity race or, honestly, like for our our remote sports is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they're not a top tier team whatsoever, but it's just that's how much talent I think Brett MOFFATT has. I think he deserves a cop ride, but I don't think he'll ever get one. I think go ahead, okay, well, I think you should do I think you should probably get a like decently topped your exfinity ride. I feel like you'd be much better off being like a kind of all guy or type...

...guy where he just kind of stays in exfinity, but he does well consistently. The biggest problem with Kate and your thought of him going to cup. Look at the car every week. There's still singing on it, no sponsors, there's nothing on it. You need sponsors to be in Cooke. I think you got sponsorship this weekend, but did he get sponsors this weekend? He has. It been the rest of the races. Not The rest of the races, unless they're kyle arson. They don't need sponsors to be in the Cup series. Oh, yeah, he's he's sloss. Yeah, basically runs like other businesses. Yeah, I like Momfort, honestly, you do. He's only probably my top five truck series drivers and, like I'd say, top five exfinity for me. I lost a little bit of respect for him, because I was saying this in a chat and another chat earlier this week after the whole dms comments that he made, because you look at the rest of them are you look at the team now, they all seem to get along, like all the drivers do, and he made those comments. It's almost like he was just the one that didn't fit in. Yeah, I mean I don't really care ify the team drama. I really doesn't affect any racing on the track. From what I've seen. I didn't even see them have any runnings anything like prior at. But I mean I like Maffie. I'd say he's definitely top five for truck. Oh, tell him was yeah, sure, no, favorite, I don't go off town. What are you talking about? What? He is my favorite exfinity driver. He said, that's true. Rand in the top five exfinity right right now. I tell yeah, I'm drink cinder car. Harrison, Harrison Jo yeah, Hayley's on front of them. Don't say that. Oh No, I'm not gonna say Haley. Shit burn isn't Almona Almanag or maybe Alman. I think it's experience. Bailey just carrying him. Well, you look at look at hammer many versus Jones, and sure Jones got taken out in two racist but Hemrick's been like the jgr Guy. Hamrick, I love. I like MEMOR DU o. Her here's Jones. Her ll be. You know, if herbs can get not caught up in a wreck for once this season and actually complete a full race, I can I give him seasons actually running time. Dick get six. He was running top five most of the day in Atlanta. Yeah, I think like Shit for half the race too, and all of a sudden they did one thing. I don't know what adjustment they made on that car, if he figured out something, but change. See Really. Yeah, it's why they didn't put a camera on the ninety eight the rest of the race. No, that's pretty much. And then in the Brandon Jones crash, Gragson, Shindric and almonding or all had like minor damage, but they kept going for the rest of the race. They'll pretty much rebound, except Sindric. But SINDER's already falling back before that once he lost the lead from pure suckle back. Yeah, he's a bad actually, he's not a good driver. Doesn't deserve the twenty two. needs to go back down to truck. Doesn't even deserve jacks. He Goes Back Down Arc he's not good. He's like not even arc over. Just who he nieces retire from raising, but Austin Syndric, just like his dad. Yeah, what Daddy? Can't say that word else I get canceled. I was gonna say that one. No, here's the other one. That people I was I was are you going to mention Gregson's dad? Is that? Where are you going? No, no, no, I was gonna use something those technically a mental slur. The R word it. Oh, yeah, yeah, about Greg Fal of a right hand on him. Oh Dude, he with that thing so hard. He was a really standing still and he just went like that. He like he went for it and didn't even like run away from a memory. Badass. He tried to initiate a fight at lost interest. landed that punch, Bro, that would have been doubt have been. Yeah, but you sports center, Bro, it's gonna be waiting come from. I don't think it would. Can't fight like if you landed the dude,...

I don't know. I think the only NASCAR driver, when I want to fight, his duty man's is built. He's Jack, he's a little, he's like a Oh yeah, no, God, he knows a couple moves. Get clocked, Bro. I'm kind of team hammered for that. No, Gregson, I don't care what you say. He's straight up. He did that o purpose. He backed into Hamrick on purpose, I think. I think that's was flipping them off as he was back in him up exactly. It is very hard to defend troy. Let's her watch your Greg I didn't. I'm not defending ever, not defending that. I said now that we're on camera. I said it was a stupid move and hemrick deserved to, not not Hemrick, Gregson deserved Hamrick to like walk up and, you know, fight or something like that. Yeah, clockham com he did. Can we go back to the race, because we kind of is Gregson still like eighteen and points? You know, he's thirteen now. Yeah, he holds better this. Wee. We's still on the playoffs. They still not in the playoffs. So pretty much tricks led most of the race until they got a speeding penalty at the end of Stage two or like one of the cautions early, early in Stage three. Said dancing. Said dancing. I think it's over. Shut. Yeah, I can listen to Um. Is he racing that? I thought he was racing. Is he raising the July rays to now he this was a one off reason. They have almost like one thing. Okay, that's getting cut. Yeah, it's so. Sure x went through the pack and with him was no Gregson, who somehow, just like always got to bring no grass and into it all. He was in this and and to add to it, Almina was kind of like behind him to and they all made the rants of top ten. I've been outside the top ten and my ind race it was a fight between Auguyre and Tu rex and all your kind of save this stuff a little bit, even though tricks faster. He killed his tires and he killed what he had and by like three to go he was kind of losing time from all that he gained, and that very much sealed the deal for all are and you got a pretty, pretty good win. I really I'm a problem with the win. Like, I don't mind it so about the whole thing that allgar would go winless this season. Yeah, that didn't happen at actually took one week, two end. That street got somewhere. Annoying. Wait, but no, I had to be the week after I said that. I mean that's good for our I guess I don't know a little bit by her that you're should win, but like, I mean, I don't really care. It's kind of just fun to see him go raise an expinity race. Yeah, that's Eve really. I you could see like the posters interview. Wasn't that heartbroken? Yeah, he didn't care. Yeah, if it was, if it was COPPA, would have meant a lot different stuff. Yeah, you would have seen a totally different attitude in that post race. And Yeah, speaking of post race, I don't know if you have anything else to ask your had to be already talked about it. How we talked about you, Yo, Yo. Yeah, okay, there we go for I agree with you, guys this time. I don't want to get clown this time. So now I can move to the second best race of the weekend. No, we don't want to talk about any like not a for not only the point, the points to change. No, gained one point on Syndric. That was you literally finish like twenty sports higher. What finished like thirteen, and hemrick finished like eight or something like that. I forget some quickly quick notable finishers, because he did bring that up. Right there, Michael, on that Riley Harris, Michael, and that they're actually they're actually like top ten consistently with, you know, without the bad luck, with surprising experistally for a net, because I thought, like you, just like he keeps getting worse. But really that's pretty bay. That's where you picked them. That to winn a come from. I picked him with the Wind Michigan and I changed it for it from I changed it once some like the cops to these drivers, like schedules were announced and I kind of like swe not gonna...

...lie, I'm still pissed out they kept the exfinity race but not the truck race at Michigan. It was so sad to bid so stupid. Um, I'm I'm not sure. I gotta figure out what I'm going to do still this year with races, because having three months off from work is probably gonna screw me out of getting many days off. Yeah, shout out to Santina Fruchie. He got him fifteen. I think that's another top fifteen. Firm. It's I think it's on a good streak within stuff, honestly. Yeah, so as it doesn't hit anyone else, he's pretty it's pretty okay in a race. Yeah, that's that's three top fifteen in a row with the size. The thirty at homestead. He is a thirteen at Las Vegas and two straight fifteen at Phoenix in Atlanta. was He good in the car? I don't. I don't really he was. He was the imagine. Imagine Larsen, but in an indy car always ran a hundred and ten percent and you can tell when he overdrove the car. That was basically he but he didn't eat, didn't crash a lot, but like, he was never really a factor for a win. No, not, you know, waiting to crash. It's because he made a dumb mass move. Wait, well, wait, Frugi and Andy Card, indy car. He never came to Toronto, unfortunately. Yeah, if he wrecked, it's because he made a stupid move. That was basically it. Yeah, notable finishers as them gonna jump first. Thirty seven. Basically done. Yeah, yeah, that was I don't hear. Well, he was. Sorry. What is it? Josh Barry Old? Do we talk about Josh Berry's hard? Yeah, thanks, Splitter, Oh my God, I all right. Who is very team? No, team splitters are no, no front splitters, because they shouldn't be a thing. CADEN's like, all right, peer pressure from the realize splitter. I just don't like what the splitter does. Yeah, I hate all the people on twitter that are like, oh, just make the grass a show turf. It's like, Um, no, do you realize how expensive that is to do that? For tricksy, they literally Martin Zelle has like the least amount of grass at any track. Of they're removing all the grinds. They are getting too expensive, like they're gonna there removing the grass because of the splitters that they get into the grass and create. Now they were moving it because they cost too much for lands, taking the things because of last year. Yeah, someone went into the grass at WORTSVILLE and flung dirt all over the track and they attaction make a red flag because we, you know, are holy. He went like yeah, at least when like this old this, I at least man getting hot rout wheelie at a dregsture. That's what he did. That's how he's honestly a little scary. I mean it's kind of I'd say. I would say it's scary. There's no it wasn't scary, but the hard hitting no risk of it holding up on my saying like, Oh my God, I'm in and I was like I was us, like it was a scary hey, like did you see a hi? You were. I mean, it's kind of all a jot. I better his card dead ass would like. I mean, there was all his fault, though. He could have just drove it back on a bit road, but he decided to go through the glass grass. He thought he's com able to get back on the track to celebrate March madness. And Yeah, he tried to show off his hops and the thirty four hundred pound car said, Nope, did we go over point or no? Yeah, here's no, there's nothing to talk about. It points. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, okay, so cop serious. It is cup serious? Great, I didn't even watch the first time. There's so much to talk about. Larson dominated the first like three hundred laps. It was a I don't any let a little bit at the beginning. Timnity, you like to win. Larson up until like the COMP caution, was it? Or Larsen took the lead just before the compassion. I did after the COP because was that? I think he did after to without lap cars you couldn't pass really butting. Oh Yeah, Danny hamlet just like don't even. Don't. It wasn't even Hay. Everyone else checked up him with didn't. Of course Hamm was not going to check out, but you expect anything more than him? He was running that Middle Lane. Kurt came down because he was, I guess, checking up. I don't know. or He's coming out of block am one. He wasn't easy. It was he was blacking Hamlon. He was trying to not think is a racism front of them? I don't I it was a racing gains and I don't think it's all. I don't think you can entirely put that on hand one. We're gonna put that on Hamlet. Put It on Bush, because Bush's the one who stack up the field now.

But that's just that's just that. Yeah, obviously can't really. Well, what about the controversy of everybody was getting mad at Joey Lugano? Let's just skip to the end. There's nothing good. Yeah, Larsen, Larsen used up his tires and then, yeah, people want to put it on Legano, but I think it was just a little bit of both. Feels more it was already are the sires. Larsen had bad tires and then bladey was also so much faster. Even before lars and even got to Lagna, Blainey was catching him quick. He's like rolling lady. But the people got through lap traffic large at the end before the pitchtop psycho, though, it was a one second lead, but Larsen back, opened it up back to three second lead and then you realim in again. But I'm saying, if you're going to hate on Nano for maybe a little bit of blocking Larson, then why aren't you hating Larson for deliberately not let putting chase a labdown? That's happened there. I Um, I watched David Land's video post race and he pointed out a good factor there. Do you know who the lucky dog was at the end of stage? To Joanna was it? Yeah, I know it. So bringing joey back onto the lead lap instead of chase by, you know, just lap and chase and therefore chase being the first car one leapt down get the lucky dog back. Stead of that happening, you have Lugano getting the Lucky Dog, which therefore he's going to try to keep his lap at the end of the race because, you know, why not? He doesn't want to finish the race of lapdown. Yeah, I mean, I don't blame them. I would have done the sand. I mean I did. I he ended up finishing labdown anyway. But Yeah, when that is obviously after blame you would pass and he'd like move over to the side that's a no brainer. I don't think Wigana did anything wrong for the first time ever, but anestly it was. It was honestly Larsen's fall. All know why. You drove so his heart out of the first like they of the war does bro he drives a hundred timey percent, whole entire the cool until but about it. Adding on to Joe Lagano, Um, even if we did on purpose, I mean I bet part of blocking is on purpose a little bit. It's Nas there's a team sport, and don't get mad when it's a team sport. Teams Um, should like try and they do something to benefit the team in some way, even for not winning. If your team has a chance, do something dim benefit the team. And once again it's leader's job to get past the lap cars. It's, yes, not the lap cars, a job, especially when he's not even a lap down yet to move out of the way, no matter how close to finish of the race. It is well Um. And that's like I was watching, and I know ture you're watching, some of the to the sebring race. Notice the DPIS they all to make these massive moves to get by everyone else, that they're laughing because they're the ones that need to get by the lap cars. They don't have to move out of the way for them. It's as simple as that. Yeah, Larson, I think I would have been a little bit more mad if Willgana was relapsed down. Yeah, it was blocked. Be a way to frusting like that, but he wasn't and he was still fighting to stand the Lee lab. Obviously Larson was probably way faster, but it's largein's fault for not finding a way to get around them. Yeah, I think the biggest thing comes down to if fans are going to be mad at Joey, there's just be mad at Larsen's team because they're the ones that told him to back off and not lap chase. I don't think it's right. I think that's if Lugano wasn't there, I think Blaney would have caught him nonetheless, but I think he would have caught him like maybe with two to go. It would have been one, two to go. It would have been. Yeah, it would be crazier finished and what we got. Yeah, but I mean it was still a good finish, honestly, like I still had fun. It kept me on the end of my seat, but Ryan Bilanney scurses first one of the season that's not at a super speed where or with the last lap pass at a road course. So that's so happy. He's finely one like he has a legitimate win. So that plad yeah, him to look at, I mean Polko, wells final people, people, everyone forgets about pop go on. That's why they only say he wins on pure look. So I mean need to three. How many ways is five? One every year. So we have five. Yeah, so wee out of a five. Winds are pretty I'd say luck base, but I mean at least this kind of shows that he's got to win early in the season that's not at a super speed way. I think this is just going to give that team more confident, which getting that...

...team with confidence is probably the last thing you want to do, because you see how they're always in the spring. They are so quick at every mile and a half, and giving them confidence is I think he could easily win two to three more races the season. Well, if he the biggest thing we saw last year before the you know, everything shut down. Yeah, did I just gotta look at someone. Just get a facetime call. Look out for James Davison okay, boors, I going. Oh, before everything shut down, he was one of the fastest cars, like, undoubtedly, and then everything shut down and he kind of limped his way the rest of the season and we saw it happened in the first round of the playoffs. The other we're gonna have a full season and he has speed and he has a win already. He is could be the season we've been waiting for from him. Finally. Yeah, I mean this every year, but I'M NOT gonna I'm not gonna jump The gun because I think it's still a real possibility. He had eliminated in the first round. He has the worst luck at Bristol. He is. Is it? It's the same, right, first round, still the same. He sucks that. Richmond and Darlington isn't. Is probably one of his worst tracks. I'd say Darlington. He just so many different things went wrong last year. Yeah, yeah, well, and it's definitely his worst track. Okay, so one question that I had to start us off. What would you say is the biggest difference or differences going back and forth between Indie car and NASCAR, given the interchangeable techniques that can be used in bull sports in Nascar, the biggest thing is not overdriving because the cars are set up just so constructed. Just pull the opposite. Obviously. You know you've got an Indie car that weighs less than half of a stock car. It's rearrangine, it's low center of gravity, it's got a lot of down force and the tire also doesn't degrade as much. So yeah, I mean it's just polar opposite. So yeah, the big thing with NASCAR is being very precise and not overdriving and adapting to the tire fall off. So yeah, that's a that's one thing we I guess we don't see more and the NASCAR is that tire fall off that Indie curs is so immediate. Another big thing that I was thinking of was, I guess, the way indiecurs so built by de Laura and so there's many components you can't mess with from the team perspective. What's what's going to be one of those big factors that you won't be able to change mid race that you wish you could, that you can't in the NASCAR? Yeah, I mean, obviously you know the track bar and the roll center and all that kind of stuff. You can do that in Nascar and you know, packers out of the front and so on, and in Indy car really all you can do is wing changes. That's it. Tire pressure and wing changes. So you know the wing changes. Do you know the dude or lot on superspeedways particularly. But let's say, if you really miss the setup, which I've had some of those experiences at the Endie five hundred and the cars just undrivable and horribly bad, you're you kind of stuck with what you got. If it's that out of the window. But in Nascar you can start off God awful, like I did at Phoenix and got the balance as smoothest class by being able to change the track bar and you know, the packers and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, you have you have a lot more adjustment in Nascar to swing the balance. Si. Yeah, I'll let you guys go with questions and then Fago anywhere. Yeah, because I thought we were doing this mole so I only really came up with one question. What was your motivation to come in the mask? I like, what really inspired you to get into this sport, and I just kind of staying in Indy car. Well, I only did eight Indie car races over the course of like seven years,...

...and six of them with the Indie five hundred. So I was basically doing one race a year and I had the opportunity to go nascar racing in the Cup series, which is obviously pretty special. Now all be it, you know, you're in a very underfunded situation where, no matter what you do, you can't possibly run in the top thirty on outright performance. I mean you just you can't make up for a deficit of twenty five million dollars a year in budget that your team doesn't have compared to the top ones. But it was a way for me to get a start and I'm a part of the big grand show. You know, I'm on the grid with all the stars. And of course some exciting things are happening in Nascar with Michael Jordan, pit ball, the madding more road courses, probably going to add a street course. Road course racings my, you know, my main you know, skill set, not that I don't love racing on ovals and I haven't won on ovals in the past, but it's an opportunity for me and obviously like the daytime to road course. This year we were, you know, we nearly secure it a top twenty position finishing position. We finished twenty three, which was Rick whear's best road course result. So I'm able to, I guess, still get some results, even though it's it's staff, you know, still tough. But there's just more opportunity in NASCAR because there's so many more people watching it and the television deal is so, so much bigger and the whole charter system where the teams are paid x amount of millions, and that's what enables rick where to financially operate and give provide opportunities at a very affordable budget relative to Indie car. So you know, I saw a stat pop up on twitter last year that I had done, I think, eight Indieca it took me seven years through eight Indie car races, but it took me three months to do twice as many NASCAR races. So obviously you've got to go where the opportunity is as a race driver and I've got this very unique opportunity to race Nascar where I would I wouldn't be racing NASCAR in any other way just simply I don't have the funding behind me to, you know, go through infinity and trucks with a proper team and this and that. And I've had the discussion with my teammate Garrett Smith, who, you know, would you want to run fifteen in exfinity or run thirty in cup? And we both agree with both. PREFER TO RUN THIRTY IN CUP because we're part of the big grand show. And Yeah, it's just there's some cool things happening and the new car, of course. So I'm gaining all of this experience and I'm only getting better and hopefully I have the opportunity to drive the new car and there really is some parity then and maybe a top ten, top fifteen next year on some road courses could be could be a possibility. And then, of course, you know, if that happens, you then get on the TV screens and then people start knowing who you are and it just, you know, a positive snowball effects. So, you know, you got to be in it to win it. You got to get a start some way. A lot of people wouldn't do what I'm doing, you know, they would that be a bit too concerned to, you know, look bad, but I'm okay with swallowing my pride running, you know, in these underfunded situations, but using it as a as like a school for me to warn all the fine details I need to be a mascar driver. So that's why I'm giving it a go. I can race a lot more than I could with Indie car and I and I enjoy it. I really love the formula that NASCAR is. So that's well, yeah, for sure. I mentioned, or I heard you mention, about the...

...next GEN car. What, given your history and racing in weather, Teken role x, what's one big thing that you think you can take from the sport car racing days and apply it to that next gend with some of the similarities we see with it? Well, I I don't know really enough about it and I haven't driven it of course, but no matter what the car handles, I can how it drives. If there's parody, instantly we have a chance, you know, and that's what's so great at about Indie car. You know you can run with Dale coin racing like I have, as a third car and run in the top ten at the Indie five hundred and qualifying the top half of the field, you know, ahead of and dready cars and canasty cars and Tony Cannon and Scott Dixon. I mean that's what's so great about Indie car. Has the parody there. Now, of course the top teams are going to generally be at the front, but the smaller teams have a chance and hopefully that's what's achieved in Nascar for the most part. So we'll see. Awesome. Yeah, you guys have anything else? Yeah, so is there you mentioned? Of course there's the equipment difference of you. Could you have a possibility of running top fifteen and again indie car by a Nascar you kind of aim for top s at best usually. But is there a different mindset there you have going into an as Curi's rather than Indie car he's yeah, there is, because even though you know theoretically you have the same right to be on the racetrack as the top twenty five cars, you don't. You know, when they come by and lap us or you know we stay out on on a restart. You know, because our team doesn't have as many tires as them to just could constantly pull in and get you tires on every caution. You you don't. It's kind of like an unwritten rule. You just you don't start at the front of the park. On older tires and think that you have a shot or right to be there, because you're just going to be, you know, buffaloed out of the way. And even if you're on new tires, their cars are so much quicker that you're going to be you're going to go from first to thirty in like three laps. Maybe in one corner you'll go first to forty. If if you get wrecked, you know, so it's very different like that. So half of it is staying out of the way and just not tearing up the cars. The bigger teams and those drivers they're paid to race very, very hard and have the budget and the teams have a lot of inventory of chassis and parts and everything, engines and our teams don't. So as much as we're still racing against the cars in our group. You have a bigger picture of, you know, maximizing the revenue for the team, E. MO owner in scoring, you know, owners points and and the prize money that comes with it, and minimizing the expenditure in any damage to the car. And that's a big part in getting more rides within our small team situation. You know, that's why Garrett Smith Lee gets rights, because he you know, does a good job and essentially last year was a test for me. You know, it could can I be competitive and can I not tear up cars? You know, inevitably there was going to be a couple of tough lessons I had to learn when I never driven stock car before, I hadn't been to any of the tracks and there was no practice and qualifying and I just had to wing it. So, you know, there was a couple of times I got, you know, into a few minor incidents but you know, didn't didn't write off any cars and so on. So, yeah, the small team situation is about showing you've got speed to get, you know, some top S, if if there's a bit of attrition, but not tearing the car up as well. And that's just opposite in the car up the front, as you see. You know, they're racing so hard up there because it's just all about winning and getting all their sponsors...

...and on TV. Yeah, I say one more question than I'll hang it off to one of you. So you've resten indy five hundred a couple of times. What is but it's like your favorite moment did you've had while racing? You five hundred yourself for sure, leading the race. In two thousand and seventeen, I got called up to substitute for Sebastian Board A in the Guy Co sponsored car. So it was my time to shine. It was my big opportunity and really, as a result of that race, it's why I'm still racing today, because I got backed and supported after, you know, putting in a good showing there. But basically board a had one of the fastest cars. He was going to be on pole and he had the terrible accident that you may recall and you know, broke his pelvis and they had to substitute another driver in there and I had driven for Dalecin racing before I got the call up. Started last and got to the lead. And you know, it's not like I did anything different in that race than any other five hundred I drove in. The car was just fast, and that's the big thing with racing is there's so many guys that are capable but such few amount of drivers get the opportunity to be in the equipment where they can actually physically feature up front. And so that was my my chance, and so I led the Indie five hundred and ye ended up getting in an incident in running in the top five on a restart when we're all racing really hard to try win it. It was kind of like going all in. You know, do it. Do you finish fifth, or do you just send and and try and win the Indie five hundred, which is life changing? Finishing v wouldn't be but winning it would be. So yeah, for sure, leading the Indie five hundred after starting last. Yeah, it was pretty special. That had an onboard camera on the car and Alan, so it was in the race. It was. It was for sure the best day of my life. That's really special. That's really awesome. I couldn't even have like if I was in your she'es. I don't think I could even imagine the immendy five hundred like that would just be that's just one of those things that, as a racing fan, you just like, hang on, this is actually happening old. Yeah, I can imagine a pressure of leadiot either. So yeah, I mean it went yellow and and so then it's set in because you can actually think about it. You know you're not racing and unlike the first car behind the pace car and you're going super slow and then you start noticing how big the crowd is and I didn't get you know, like my mind didn't go off the job, but I remember just saying to myself, man, I've got to try and close this. This is this is unbelievable. I'm actually leaving me into five hundred and I've got a legit chance to do it and I just kind of threw no fold of my own. It didn't work out there. I got shopped on a restart by castor and nevers and then I got freight trained and I had to race hard to come back and in doing so, you then put yourself in a position where you can kind of, you know, get involved in a wreck and it's risk verst reward, and the reward was worth the risk, of course, for for sure. That's awesome and I know you have a couple of questions. Yeah, my first one was just talking about I've seen done sports cards and done open wheel and now coming into stocks. I was just wondering what the biggest adjustment was. Yeah, I mean the obviously you're racing on ovals primarily, and I guess the difference in lines is the biggest thing that's different, because a sports car they're heavier than an indie car. Their front engine, or at least the ones I race. That Aston Martin and the and the Nissan gtrgt three cars. They're hot inside and that's all similar to NASCAR. But you're the tire fall off, like I said, is so substantial in Nascar, and how you go so high up the track to go faster, to roll more speed and take advantage of the banking and so on.

That was the thing you just got to adjust to a little bit. But I've really enjoyed it and and I didn't feel that it took too long to pick it up. You know, you just let's say you're running at Richmond, a little short ovall and traction becomes an issue and you know you're on new tires and you're running the bottom. And then after a few, you know, ten plus flaps, Fifteen, twenty laps, you start having traction issues. And then I saw a car in front of me running one lane higher and I'm like, okay, that makes sense to me. Why he'd be running one lane higher when he's got the same tie life that I do. I'm starting to lose grip going higher. Now I can roll a bit more speed and get the wheel straighter and improve the traction, so something. Yeah, things like that and and yeah, I really enjoyed it at Atlanta on the weekend as well, just running the different lines and so on. It's pretty cool for sure. My other question is obviously hasn't been cooling since you made your Nascar debut, but I was wondering what you feel like you've improved on the most since you're going. I mean, it's really everything. It's it's it's the restarts, the confidence to to send it on cold tires out of the pits or on the start, coming onto pit road and not speeding and you know you don't have the pit my inn speed limit are coming into your box. Just all the procedures. It's it's everything, just little small improvements all the time. Since there's no practice, you know, you kind of stuck with what you've got at the beginning of a race, so you know get it. Getting the car to hand or how you want off the bat is a bit random because no one really knows what their cars going to do. But yeah, it honestly, it's everything, just it just everything starts becoming second nature to you and you're not so unsure and I remember the first time I did my first race of Pokono. You start getting passed by, you know, when you get lapped and all these you like well, I'm actually on track with Kyle Bush and Kevin harbock and Jimmy Johnson and Blah, Blah Blah, and now it's just like yeah, okay, I know, I know they're just I've been on track with these guys many times before and I have confidence to not mess up and be in the right place. And those guys there's a lot of signals outside of their window nets. I'm not sure if you see it on TV, but when they come by US they stick their hands out the window and just kind of like, you know, give you the peace sign or something, just like I'll thanks for getting out of the way or not screwing me or knowing I was there. And Yeah, I mean there was a lot of that. Actually, it don't lance or I got some like I guess thank you should call it, from like Kyle Bush and true x and in the past I've gotten them from Kurb Bush because of Owski. And Yeah, it's cool when you know that they appreciate you, know that you're you've got there, you're respecting their race and you're doing a good job at what your job is, which is to run out of their way and run your own race. Silent, silent. I know you told try that you mean that I've had a lot of time so and making key and usual asses. But given how you've already been here, what's one story that you may have from the track or race weekend that really stands out? Oh well, look, since the whole covid situation has completely changed a normal race weekend where you wouldn't chat with other drivers and so on and so forth, it's it's eliminated all of that. So I don't I don't have anything in particular from my cup experience. But when I drove in exfinity with Joe Gibbs on the road courses, I was teammates with Christopher Bell and, to be honest, I had no idea who Christopher Bell was at that time, like that he raced on dirt or any of that, and he had no idea who I was. But we were teammates and I got in the Joe Gibbs car and and basically dominated top practice. Started on the front row, drove off into the distance and won the first stage...

...and Christopher Bell was, yeah, I guess, learning how to road course drive at that point and he was leaning on me for some some help, and I was happy to help him and he and I have been friends ever since, but I'll never forget that. You know, from where I'm from, we say oversteer or understeer, and I was telling him I year, you know, the car can be a bit better. It's got a bit of understeer, and he's like what's what's understeer? And I'm like what? Like, sure me, you know what I'm the steering is. He's like what? Like, like tight, and I'm like yeah, and I'm and to me, like tight was like who says tied? Who the houses tight and loosen all this stuff. It's like tight and lose. It's like it's see the overseering or under steering. And so yeah, we just like we just came from such different backgrounds, like a dirt guy driving on a road course and yeah, it was that was cool. That was cool. That makes more sense, though. Overseer and understeer. Yeah, that makes more sense and it's a really it's a more like technical term, I guess. Yeah, as car the only the only time, like troy, and I can even explain using that as when we race online. That's really the only way. That's the really the only reason. We know what all that and know about that. Yeah, I want to end this off of one last question. I know you like it's all tight on time, but you mentioned driving for Joe Gibbs and you must have gotten like some kind of call or something like that from Joe Gibbs. What was it like him like giving opportunity to race for? Well, so what I had to do first was get a start in the exfinity series. So I drove the ninety car when, I guess it was even more underfunded than it is now, and everyone knows, you know, these cars are very underfunded. So, long story short, I qualified eighteen were about the car is good for, but got up to seventh after the start and first restart and I then that the I remember the TV camera went on me because I pulled this like three wide lunge down into turn five at Road America on bubble Wallace and just an old iyer and a few I just like sent it and our car was so slow in a straight line and I was just eating up all the brakes and tires and everything. But Long Story Short, it put me on the radar. So that is how I got chatting with Joe Gibbs and it was very special when the deal went through and I went to this shop and my crew chief was Chris Gabehart, who, of course, is Denny Hamlin's crew chief now and become quite renowned and and Chris and I got along really well. The team is their attention to details awesome. How they look after the driver and make sure your whole fit in the cars they're Chris gave me a great car. Any changes I needed to it, he gave them to me and I didn't drive any different and I met the front, you know, essentially dominating the race, and it just goes to show how much the equipment matters in Nascar. It's unbelievable. I mean at the daytime road course I was my fastest lapess three and a half seconds off the fastest car, who I think was Christopher Bell, and whenever Christopher and I would teammates, you know I was a little bit quicker because that was my my background right, but it just goes to show, like how you know, how good these top teams are like you. You just you don't do anything different and you just at the front. So it was an awesome experience the drive with Joe Gibbs, but you know, I only had the sponsorship to do one or two races and to get anywhere you've got to be able to do one or two seasons, you know, like one, two, three seasons, and exfinity and trucks like Bell Syndric, you know, chase BRISCO and if you don't have it, that's where it's difficult. So hence how I'm driving for Rick where, because I just have an opportunity to go racing period and learn. That's yeah, yeah, that's really awesome. Thanks for thanks for giving a time in ornate...

...to talk with us and answer a lot of a questions. Neither a lot. Yeah, if you have one more, I can I can fit it in if you guys. Shoot, I was just thinking of it. I'm like it. No Way. Do you like to addressing would you say it's kind of your favorite cup? CADEN's very biased towards gives. Oh, I don't it's still losing it. Yeah, I mean it's just to have a good relationship with Joe Gibbs racing and bell and kyle boy. I do some eye racing with Kyle Bush. Yeah, I definitely have. I like to see them do well and, you know, to be a dream to drive for them in the Cup series. I'm not really sure how realistic that is. Of course, never say never, but yeah, I have a lot of respect for how that team is run. There's a reason why they're winning team. And you just look at their sponsors as well. You know, big brands that they have as sponsors wouldn't be associated with them if they were, you know, they weren't professionals. You've got some good taste, though. I like to get drasment. Yeah, they remember my one run. One question, real question. What's a what's a short term goal that you say you would have them? What's a long term goal? Short term, I would like to think I can get a top twenty this year on a road course. Now they'll have to be symmetrition, as ever, for that to happen, but we nearly banked it at day to owner. I was just getting ready to pass Ryan Newman for twenty with two and a half laps to go and my break pedal went to the floor. We drop back to three positions. To twenty three. But it was realistic, just kind of knowing that the car we can get it to handle better. And there was a few things I was fighting. I don't think we had new breaks on the car at that race and so we kind of know, okay, with this blowdown force package, you got to put brand new stuff on the car. You can't get away with not having new gear. They'll be a practice session at Austin, so getting the car tuned will be, you know, this more chance of getting the car tune right. And Austin's going to be a lot tougher track. So these cup guys are going to be challenged at that track. Now, the top, top guys will be just fine, but some of them will be, you know, that aren't real road course races. They're going to be challenged and that's going to be my time to to capitalize. So I'm pretty excited, to be honest, for like Road America and Austin and in particular of the road courses. Long term it would be to think that I can do at least twenty races next year with the new car and that there will indeed be some good parody and I can kind of feature up there in the top maybe fifteen genuinely, and and then, of course, you know, they could be some good dividends of that. Right. We're some of the bigger teams can start looking at you because they can actually gage how good you are or not. But as things are right now, they just don't know exactly how good you are when you're running around in equipment. That's three seconds of our off. You know it staff. So yeah, that's the short term and long term goals. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, I wish you luck with our that. That seems really realistic. Honestly, you could be there the next like Ambrose said, or something Ambros, even Hamros, well, I mean extra rode a ringer. Everyone has their eye on everything over road course. Yeah, I mean things are changed since those days of the ringers, like Boris said, Ron Fellows, ambrose, because there's more road courses being brought in and the simulators that the teams have a so realistic now that the drivers get unlimited opportunity to get better on the top teams and I've driven the Toyota simulator when I drove for Joe Gibbs and it is it is awesome. Like I did the same lap time on the simulator that I did in the real car and I mean it's like nine Thousan two hundred and ninety five percent accurate. It's really,...

...really good. So it's it's getting tough at a kind of just, you know, make up the difference if you're in a smaller team. But I know it's it's possible, though, because you know, at a couple of these road courses, you know I can. I can get by like Ryan Newman and Corey or joy kind of in the second half of a stint and a couple of other other guys. So yeah, let's see. Let's see what Austin throws. I think that's going to be pretty exciting. I'm excited for it. I I'll be on the look out. I'm getting road course fan, so yeah, I'll be. I'll be excited for that. Between road courses in short track, same those too, and and they say they're going to add a street course next year. So next year real though. They haven't heard that. Yeah, it's a long we that Torana. Yeah, I don't know, but it's who's the president in a Nascar now he felps. Yes, Steve Felt. That's who I thought. I just didn't want to say the wrong name, but I believe he mentioned it when he announced the two thousand and one, two thousand and twenty one scheduled, that it's their intent to add a street course and I've always thought how cool it would be if it happened to be Long Beach and you can just imagine like all the cars going through the Fountain area and ripping out all the flowers in the garden. been you know what I mean. It just be chaos. It would be awesome if that happens. Yeah, not to be biased, but please be Toronto. Yeah, it's like Toronto. That's one of my favorite street courses. I've raced there at least three, three times. Yeah, racey three times. No, maybe for but it was. It was. It's a good time up there and that's a great track. We'll see. Oh, yeah, all right, guys, thanks for your yeah, yeah, thank you. Yeah, it's pretty late, but thank you for coming on and yeah, you appreciate it and no worries. Will chat soon. Will we watch a voute for you? Yeah, good luck a season. Yeah, thanks, guys. See. See. Yeah, so one to finish. Just pick our driver. Hang out. Yeah, well, yeah, first. Yeah, you are first. Yeah, that's true. Be Pigs. You're going with bell. Yeah, I was debating between Bell and BRISCO because I'm I don't want to overthink it. I was like would maybe if I go BRISCO he'll do better than Bellwood at a different track, but I'm going bell overthink. Yeah, I'm surprised you're not saving bell, honestly, for one of the better tracks. Yeah, all right, so you're going with Brist has been like twenty eight. Oh, I mean, I'm not. No, I just feel like I have more faith in bell. It dirt and I do up BRISCO. That's fair. I just feel like I don't have faith with BRISCO anywhere. Hang on, I'm trying to mess with this. Gro I is I should I go next? Well, no, no, it goes in an order. Now we have an order. No, Yoch, it is based off of Lex our last week's results. so they'refore our making points. They were going to who did I pick last week? That's you had hamlet. I took Harvek and he decided to notch up again for another race. But honestly, that, outside of Kyle, that would have been my best choice. Nick took bell so I can't take Belle. You know what? I'll go with Kyle Bush. Yeah, okay, I think I go next or right, because I find a second. You finished first. No, Hamlon finished ahead a bow. Yeah, Yep, you're next. It's not that newman or dylan both have dirt experience, but I think Newman's been race did for longer. After that's really a no brainer. I'm gonna GO Newman. Honestly, there was a better tracey because of other races on the schedule. HH, maybe it's a Daga. But yeah, Daga, anyone? I don't even know who. How who else I have? I'm going to be clutely honest. Yeah, if you want to take him, Blainey, you've really been in good spot last week. I should have taken away. I said I was thinking it was I we can be Blaney. No, I said I was going to save Blaney for Daga. But why would I save anybody for Dago? It's Day. Yeah, all right, try your turn to right. My next. Yeah, I'm gonna take Um Chase BRISTCO for a bristol. I've Larsen oil list,...

...but what the I mean? He's good at every truck. So I think it's smarter to bank on him for this future track. I think that rapsod rapid. Yeah, I'm do want to talk about not every mind is too we didn't even do a preview of Bristol direct though a bristle there we've got like five times. Yeah, we could make our picture quick of where where we expect? Oh yeah, UM, shoot. First question. Do we expect it? It's going to be a mess or is it going to be a mess there, or is it going to be tame up until the final ten laps? That it's going to be a mess. It's going to be a mess the whole time. Yeah, I think it's gonna be a why he's going to be over and over. It's just going to be like the I racing race in a the Bristol normal burstow last year. I S just look see it be like a dumpster fire for the first two stages and then the final stage will be whatever dirt guys are left. Honestly finally stayed wanted to be whatever dirt guys are left's me whatever guys are left in general. No, because like those like nine guys, those eight or nine guys that have dirt experience will be there. Yeah, probably, and that'll be it. I'm just praying that Lars and don't and it's only thing. I think. I'm picking list. I think we need to make sure that there. We need to pray it doesn't rain, because it always range this weekend at Bristol, but it is rains when I go a race. I'll troy, where are you going to the spring toute? Always there is Talladega Fall, two thousand and nineteen, the two thousand and twenty doors, two thousand and twenty Daytona. Well by twenty one, Daytona Twenty twenty, like Charlotte. Wis, Troye dirt, Troy trure. Right, you're the NASCAR curse. It's not the PODCAST, the Evercurs, it's the U Kers, it's sneakers. There's a there's a few weekends in a row as Campe where we've got rain, but other than that, but it's okay, of course. Okay, yes, I can know one time it was bad. One time they couldn't even fit it in because there's actually like pubdles on the track. It was bad. That's a good thing about CTMP those. If it's rain you can watch it certain spots from your car because the spot we can nice. I'm who know. I picked win, Oh fix, win, Chris Arbout. I want bout to win so bad. If, if there's gonna be a first two time winter the season, I wanted to be bell just to put more championship pipe on him. I think Briscoes gonna win just to Piss off everyone with the damn playoffs and the have another first time winner this season. Imagine I waging. I want to go first time winner, but I'm going Larson. I feel like he's obviously so good on dirt. His car has been fast all year. I think can your I don't know. I know he's been good under but I mean I like to argue Christopher bowl is up there like right back and back with Larsen. It'll be it'll be a repeat of the chill different on dirt, but in general Larsen's has had more speed for the yeah, they're battles and to be repeat of the Chili Bowl we're gonna have an insane.

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