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Episode · 8 months ago

Episode 23 Bumps and Bruises of the ATL (feat. James Davison)

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This week we go over all the interesting events of NASCAR’s first trip to Atlanta. With the crazy post Xfinity race situation and the much needed true and confidence builder win YRB got this weekend beaten the unstoppable man of the day Kyle Larson.

We were also pleased to have James Davison join the podcast this week! Giving a great insight on what it’s like running where he does in the Cup field along with his limited time in Indycar so far. 

Be sure to check us out here on YouTube and on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Along with on instagram @thenascarhotspot

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...fingere, he's, plus five and then tentis Carson Hosevar. Who is hanging on splus One? U Up the cutline overChanler Smith, who was one point behind the cutline and then Todd Gillen is four pointsbehind a cutline. Brettmoffit is thirteen five points, Bulot catline andI, like the other notable below that is Rafa. Lasarr he's minis thirty one blowthe Caut bin Eighteen wow he's had he's. Had some bad looks yeah.Hopefully you can pull. This was like the first weekend. He really didn'tshow any speed, though, like the rest yo every week and he's had extremeSPEEC had like top ten top five, even speed yeah its always something justdoesn't go his way like they toned a road course he was. He was fast. Iremember that yeah well, no, this week when I was watching it in it might havebeen because the transmission problemse o Tren ther that might have been beforeI even started watching the race, because I turned it down about halfwaythrough stage to he. Just already a couple laps down andwas just slow, he almost wasn't moving Shakane, I mean not as bad as norm.Benning was because, oh my God, I thought, Yo oot ran over it. Watrighto o YeahHat's ECAUSE. He wasow ASCAR Yeah e yeah. I saw tweet saying that I waslike I mean Benning's, never like a tob ut hit's, not eas, that bad obely that bad s, God part for beingjus low. But like he's, never a that good yeah, but he's not usually like ahazard. Now he's exprienced enough to like sorr. I just saw the end of theMichigan game. N. nothing else really happened.truckrase. I don't know. If there's anything else to really touch on there, yeahmthe j beat the tgers yeah. I forgot about that baseball orthe truck race Kan. You should get into Basehole to you know: Wy can't watchmasal baseball, so worn. No! You didn't Gite H M in Ale. I watched hockeybefore I just didn't. Wanth it religiously yeah baseball is boring. Ican't watch baseball. Oh, I went to one baseball game, an I was like seven andit was the last baseball game I ever went to baseballs baseballs fun live Ienjoy Itwell. I like I enjoy playing it itexing to watch love, that's e!! Ican't watch for me it's good like it's relaxing and exciting. That's why Ifeel like it's good, because you can just like sit there and chill e is alsoa Carris, an relaxing mat. I I had before I moved to freehold. I had Yminor league team that was like based in ton I loved him. I used to go tikethe game a couple times. Even so e expinity race was a little bit better.I think it was the best race of the weekend yeah. I thank so on that yeah.I think it had. It had okay racing and I think the other racing for the othertwo races were just bad in general. Why don't skip ahead, but the post rate wasthe best part of this onmust be real ythat's, true yeah, so we're going tostart in the beginning, Martin Chrik junor his first expence start since wthousand an ten he starts eighteenth and who wander he takes te lead onhaens dancing until we get later on in the race. He didn't speed on Ito. Wonoh Yeahyowen,like five Miesi, was like Hoy Owdoyou Ooyou. Well, they use like Ti. Don'tthey use a different dash and xminiy than theywhich one use is digital, because it's that cos one nexfines more analogueit'Syeah, no O and Iwell. There's that nothingreally happened. Tricks weat this first two statees and there's that big reck,which I don't even know. What happened? I just know brandand Jones got turnedand could not yeah I so Brett Moffit was trying to like he pretty much likecleared himself like he was trying to pull behind Jones and he wasn't clearof thim and he just tagged Junes Quarter Panel and Joneswent spinning taking up Bret moff and bread mofitbefore that was a top five car. He was having a really good run for had team.He was top fine in underrated, expinity racer, honestly like for our our Mosports. Is it Yeah Yeah Yeah? I mean they're, not a top toyour teamwhatsoever, but it's just that's how much talent I think Brat moffin has. Ithink he deserves a cop ride, but I don't think he'll ever get one. I think, go ahead, okay! Well, I think youshould do. I think you should probably get a like decently top her exfinityride. I feel like you'd, be much better...

...off being like kind of all Guye typeguy, where he just kind of stays in expinybodhy does Wal consistently the biggest problem with Kat an your thought of him going to cup. Look at the car every week. There's nothing! No sponsors there'snothing on it. You need some boxers to be in COK. Ithink you go sponsorship this weekend, but did O get sponsor this weekend? thhsunless theyr Kian, hey don'tneesponsors to be Inte Cupsas, Oh yeah shombaialy runs like other businesses,yeah. Think when I like Momfott honestly he'she's, like probably my top five truck sers drivers and, like I'd, say tolfive exfinity for me, I lost a little bit of respect for Hem because I wassaying this in a chat and another chet earlier this week after the whole dms comments that hemade, because you look at the rest of them ore. You look at the team now theyall seem to get along, like all the drivers do, and he made those comments it's almostlike. He was just the one that didn't fit in yeah I mean I don't Really Care Fifthat I, as US team drama. It really doesn't affect any racing on the trackfrom what I've seen. I didn't even see them have any runnins anying like priorat, but I mean I like Mafi I'd, say he'sdefinitely tolified for trucks, Oh tellins yeah for sure no favorite, I don't go off talent. What are youtalking about? Wha? Is My favorite exfinity driver, Tuetop int right now, a Wiyeah, I'm Drik, Sinja C HarrisonHarrison Jonyeah Halee's on front of them. Don't saythat no, I'm not goin to say Haly ship bur and is 'n Almano omening or maybe ame o uck Omtert exerience just sharing. Well, you look at Look Atammeraversus,Jonsand sure Jons got taken out to racist, but hamricks been like the jgrGuy Hammer Guy Lot, I like Emmi Du, Oh herleers Jones, herwo, OIF herbs can get not caught up in awreck for once this season and actually complete a full race okayi an I giveimnext ear running he running top five, most of the day inAtlanta yeah, like Shit for half the race to and all of a sudden. They did.One thing I don't know what adjustment they made on that car or if he figuredout something I change o secretly yeah. That's why they didn't put a camera n,the ninety eight, the rest of the race, no that's pretty much and then in the brand on Jones crash, Gregson, Shintrick and almaning or allhad like minor damage, but they kept going for the rest of the race theyll prettymuch reboundn except Sondric, but sinters already falling back beforethat. Once he lost the leader from Turi Sucgo back yeah, he fe, B actualhe's,not a good driver, doesn't deserve the twenty two needs to go back down totruck doesn't even deserve trecks. He Goes Back Down Arc he's, not good he'sNotnot, even Orcoris Hhe need o o retire from raising, but TonstanSindrid ohjust like his dad yeah. What daddy can't say that word,or else I get canceled? I wasn't going to say that one, nothere's the other one that People Iwas Gonto Mention Gregss Dad is that whereyou going? No, no! No, I was going to use something thawastechnically o a mental slur. Tthe rordyeahyeahtk UTAILITA dude. He whipfthat thing SL. He wasy standing still and he just went like a Ikeday. He he went for and eer didn't even likerun away from Amar ock him Iki Tae felling. I Bada he tried to initiate a fight and lostand dressmers Cain Hat nchbro thatwould have been that would have been yeah,btetsgnnabewafm, don't thintfight IA,...

Udtdu ion't know. I think the onlyNASCAR driver woundnit want to fight his Dibby Mans is built. He's Jack He'sa little he's like a aoh yeah nonwsa up mosget, clocked, bkind of team himer. For that no Gregson, I don't care what you say he's straightup. He did that on purpose he backed into Hammercon purpose. I think I thinkThas was flipping hem off as hewas backing them up exactly Einis vey hard to defend toyle, Wa oe Fendin ever not defendingthat. I sa Kay now that we're on camera. I said I I stupid, move and Hamrickdeserve to not not hemrick dregsan deserve timework to like walk up, andyou know fight or something like Thatyeah Clackem cockem. He did. Can we go back to the race because wekind of JI greattill like eighteenth and points you know he's I noweah Hsbeth Aof, so pretty much triks led at most of therace until they got a speeding, prounty at end stage to or like one of thecautions early early in stage, three Kao said Dancing O said dancing. Ithink it's over Sht yeah can N to. Is he racing thet? I thought he wasracing. Was He raise in the July RAC to no h? This was a won one. Offres Dev,almost onthat's gettingeat's GSO Shurex, went through the pack and withhim was no Grexon new, somehow, just like always got to bring no grot andThento it Ol. He was in this and and to add to it. almining was kind of likebehind him to and tew made the RAINTA top ten I've think outside the top ten and my in race. It was a fight betweenAuguy and TUREX and all your kind of saved the stuff alittle bit even though tricks faster. He killed his tires and he killed whathe had and by like three dego, he wuse kind of losing time from all that hegained and that eer Mon sealed the deal for all Gar and you got a Ppretty, apretty good win. I really that I am a problem with the win, like I don't mindit so about the whole thing that Auga would go winless this season, yeah thatdidn't happen at actually took one week to and that street Gat Soanoyseuno ithad to be the week after. I said that hi mean that's good for hour. I guess Idon't know little bit bacer that Yuitouldn win,but, like I mean I don't really care it's kind of just fun to see him go,raise ext, vinity, roce yeah, that's Hev! Really, you could see like theposters interview. Wasn't that hard broken yeah e did I territ if it was ifit was Copa, woud an meant a lot different, styff yeah. You would haveseen a totally different attitude in I postry sow iw peak te post race. Idon't know if you have anything else to ask if you alread had it. We alreadytalked about it. Ow Eokay, her we got CYEA, I gotgee with you guysthis time I don't want to get cron son. So now wea move to the second best raceof the weekend. No, we don't want to talk about any like not a foo, notforme the Pointin. The pointnomr gained one point onsndric. That was when youliterally finish like twenty spots higher what finish like, thirteent andHemrick finished like eigth, or something like that. Allrih they forg quickly quick notablefinishers cauze. You did bring that up right. Hers, Ioon that Hily, hers,Michael and that they're actually they're actually like top ten consistently with you know, without thebad luck which surprising, especially for Onette, because I thought like he just like he keeps getting worse.But really I picked h m the win Michigan an Ichanged it I for it, for I changed it once M, like cups of these drivers,like schedules were annouced, and Li...

...kind of like Snot goingna lie, I'mstill pissed out. They kept the expinity race, but not the truck raceat Michigan, thitas, so stupidi'MMI, I'm not sure. I got to figure out whatI'm going to do still this year with races, because having three months offfrom work is probably Goinno. Scream me out of getting many days off, yeah shout to Santina Firchi. He got himFifteenh. I think that's another top fifteen from it's. I think hi's on agood streit with an stuff honestly yeah sose doesn't hit anyone else, he'spretty it's pretty okay in a race yeah! That's this three fifteen in arow with besides the thiryes at homestead, is our thirteen at Las Vegasthan two straight teeth at Phoenix an Atlanta. was He good at Indy Caridon? Idon't thin. He was, he was imagine, Imagine Larson, but in an MBcar always ran a hundred and ten percent, and you can tell when heoverdrove the car. It was basically he, but he didn't. He didn't crass a lotbut like he was never really a factor for a win. No, not ne trash. It'sbecause he made a dumbass move, wait Wen wai, fruig and Endy carn indcar. He never came to Toronto INM unfortuatly yeah. If he recked itsbecause he made a stupid roof. That was basically it yeah. We notable finishers Isame Yeahyeahwellheas Sori. What is this Os Barry? Oh, did we talk about Josh Barry's hardyeah thanks plitter? Oh my God. I all right who is very team, no team, splirsor no no front fliters, because they shouldn't be a thing cavens like all right, peer pressure, HM realizetiliter. I just don't likewhat the litter does. Yeah I hate alte popl are twitter that are like. Oh justmake the grass Ashsho turf it's like now. Do you realize how expensive thatis to do that for tricks, so they literally Martino I, the least amountof grass at any track, a they're removing all the grands that aregetting too expensive, like they're Goinna they're, removing the graspbecause of the splitters that dig into the grass and creed. Now they weremoving it because they cost too much for lanaking them things. Because oflast year, yeah someone went into the grass that wor il and it flung dirt allover the track, and they attactually make a red flih because Ly. He went like yeah least when, likethis O, like ar ca, this Ey at least manlike hot roud wheely at Adrecton at's. What he did. That's O S, honeslya little scary. I mean it's kind of I'd, say I would say S, scary, there's nowas tis scary, BS, Hart Ig, no Bisn, ie myg, like it was a scary hit. Like did yousee? Hig, you were, I mean its kind of all a jot. I betterhis card Dedus Wuld. Like I mean it, was all his faull, though hecould have just drove it back on a fit road, but he decided to go through theglad grass. He thought HEWS go e to Keback on t tra El Marsyeah. He tried to show f his Hab and thethirty four hundred pound car aid. No did we go over point or no yeah.There's no there's nothing to talk about. I it like yeah, I don't think ryeah yeah, so cop Serios, it is cup serious greatacall. I didn't even watchthe first tie, there's so much to talk about Larson dominated the first likethree hundred laps. It was a o o Dannyet a little bit atthe beginning, Deiny ye like Toa up into like the COMP caution. Was it orLarsen Tok the lead just before the concastion I seey did after the comp because yeahI think HEU did after without lap cars you couldn't pass really butor mngcohyeah, Danny Hamlen, just like don't even it waseverone else checked uphimdidt. Of course ham was not goingto check out.Would you expect anything more than him? He was running that Middle Lane curcame down because he was, I guess, checking up. I don't know oreus comingout O block anone. He wasn'tmusing it was. I was he was black and Hamlin. Hewas trying to think is a Racor somefof Hem, I don't it was a Racinginan. Idon't think it's all. I don't think you can entirely put that on Hald oneyou're going to put that on Hamlan put it on Bush, because Bush is the one whostack up the field...

...now, but that's just that's. Just Tha yeah, obviously can't reallywell whatabout the controversy of everybody was getting mad at joy,Lagono, let's just get to the end. There's nothing! LARC Marson used uphis tires and then yeah people want to put it onLegano, but I think it was just a little bit of both. It was more, it isVertya, Asi Larson had bad tires and then blandy was also so much faster.Even before Lareson even got to Legano blady was catching him quick. He waslike Ye Rolling AK, AE OO, lap traffic lar at the end. Before the Pitt StopPsycolo, it was a one. Seco leave te Lars Omme back, opened it out back tous any second lead, and then you reel emin again, but I'm saying if you'regoingto hate on Linano for maybe a little bit of blocking Larson, then whyaren't you hating Larson for deliberately not let putting chase alabdown? That's happened. I watch ch David Land's video post raceand he pointed out a good factor there do you know who the lucky dog was atthe end of sage to Yearaa? What's IT Yeah? I know it so bringing joey back onto the lead lapinstead of chase by you know just laughing Jhason, therefore chase beingthe first car one LEP down get the lucky dog back. Instead of thathappening, you have Legano gain the lucky dog which therefore he's going totry to keep his lap at the end of the race, because you know why not. Hedoesn't want to finish the race of lap down. Yeah, don't blame him. I wouldhave understand. I mean I ended Ike. He ended up finishing a lap down any way,but yeah Wheni. Just obviously after plane, you would pass an he'd like moveover to the sire. THAT'S A no brainer! I don't think Legana did anything wrongfor the first time ever, but astit was it was honestly Larsen'e Fol. I don'tknow why he drove so his heart out. The first like bit of the wo does Bro. Hedrives a hundred tfenty percent whole ntire yeah they cool until bu about it,Addin Gon to Joe the Gano, even if he did on purpose I mean I bet part ofblocking was on purpose a little bit. It's Naster's a team sport and don'tget mad when it's a team. SPOR teams should like try and like do somethingto benefit the team in some way, even for not winning, I routim as a chancedo something dembenefit the team and once again it's the leaders job to getpast the lap cars. It's J, not the lap cars a job, especially when he's noteven a lap down yet to move out of the way, no matter how close to the finish ofthe race, it is well and that's like I was watching- and I know tror youwerewatching some of the to the Seabrin race notice, the DPIS. They all to makethese massive moves to get by everyone else that they're lapgping, becausethey're the ones that need to get by the lap cars they don't have to moveout of the way for them. As simple as that yeah Larcon, I thinkI would have been a little bit more mad if Wigana was threlapse down. Yeah hasblok be a way to fi tram like that, but he wasn't and he was still fighting tostay on the Le Loud. Obviously, Larson was probably way faster, but it's largeand falt for not finding a way to get around them yeah. I think the biggest thing comes down to. If fans are going to be mad at Joey,they should just be mad at larcence team because they're, the ones thattold him to back off and not lab chase. I don't think it's R, I think that's. If legano wasn't there, I think blandywould have caught him, none the less, but I think he would have caught himlike maybe Wuld to to go. It would have been one two to go. It would have beenyeah, it would have Ben Ci eazior finished than what we Gotyeah, but Imean it was still a good finish honestly, like I still ad Funi Kany onthe end of my seat, but Ryan Blany sporcs is first one of the season.That's not at a super speedway or with the last lap pass at our road course.So that's I'm so happy I only on like he has a legitimate wind, tae look aterLikei, Mnocao Wel a lot of people, people! Everyone forgets about pog!That's why they always say he wins on pure Louok. So I mean he three how manyOnseais fiveon every year, so we have five yeah, so hre out of five winds arepretty Ti'd, say luck based, but I mean at least this kind of shows that he'sgot Ta win early in the season. That's not at a super speedway. I think this is just going to give thatteam more confident which getting that...

...team with confidence is probably thelast thing you want to do because you're see how they're, always in thespring, they are so quick at every mile and a half and giving them confidenceis. I think he could easily win two or three more aces the season. Well, if he, the biggest thing we saw last year before the you know, everything shut down yeah di, I just G. Look at someone just geta face. Time call look out for James Daveson, okay Os, I gon. Oh before everything shutdown, he was one of the fastest cars like undoubtedly, and then everythingshot down and he kind of lived his way, the rest of the season,and we saw what happene in the first round of playoffs nothat we're gonna,have a full season and her speed and he has a win already. Heis could be the season. We've beenwaiting for from him. Finally yeah I this every year, but I'm not going toI'm not going to jump the gun, because I think it's still a real possibility.He has elimined in the first round. He has the worst luck a bristol he is. Isit it's the same right? First Tine still the same, he sucks at Richmondand Darlington isn't is probably one of his worst tracks. I'd, say Darington,he just so many different things went wrong last year, he yeah yeah reind is definitely his worst track.Okay, so one question that I had to start us off. What would you say is the biggestdifference or differences going back and forth between Indi car and NASCAR,given the interchangeable techniques that can beused in both sports. In Nascar, the biggest thing is not overdriving because the cars are set up just so constructed just pullthe opposite. Obviously, you know you've got an indy car that weighs lessthan half of a stock car. It's rearangine, it's low center ofgravity. It's got a lot of down force and the tire also doesn't degrade as muchso yeah I mean it's just pollar opposite so yeah. The big thing with NASCAR isbeing very precise and not over driving and adducting to the tie of fall off Soyeah. That's a that's one thing we, Iguess we don't see more and the NASCAR is that tire falloff that ind cars isso immediate. Another big thing that I was thinkingof was, I guess, the way Indi car so built by Delara and so there's many components you can't messwith from the team perspective. What's what's going to be one of those bigfactors that you won't be able to change? Midrace that you wish you couldthat you can't and ask her yeah I mean. Obviously you know thetrack bar and the role center and all that kind of stuff. You can do that inNascar and you know packers out of the frontand so on and in Inde car. Really all you can do is wing changes. That's it tier pressureand wing changes. So you know the wing changes. Do you know the Dododo a lot onsuperspeedways, particularly, but let's say if you really miss the setup whichI've had some of those experiences at the Endi five hundred and the cars just undrivable and horribly bad you're,you're kind of stuck with what you got if it's that out of the window, but inNascar you can start off God awful like I did itPhoenix and got the balance as smooth Tis class by being able to change thetrack bar, and you know the packers and all that kind of stuff. So yeah you have. You have a lot more adjustment in NASCAR to swing thebalance so yeah I'll. Let you guys go withquestions and then Figo anymone yeah, because I thought we were doing thistomowrow. So I only really came up with one questionwhat. Was your motivationto come into Mask Car Lik? What really inspired you to get into this sport andnot just kind of staying in Indie car? Well, I only did EIT INDE car racesover the course of like seven years,...

...and six of them were the indi five hundred,so I was basically doing one race a year and I had the opportunity to go nascar racing in the Cup series,which is obviously pretty special. Now albe it. You know you're in a veryunderfunded situation, where no matter what you do, you can't possibly run inthe top thirty on outright performance. I mean you just you can't make up for adeficit of twenty five million dollars a year in budget that your team doesn'thave compared to the top ones, but it was a way for me to get a start andI'm a part of the big grand show. You know I'm on the grin with all the stars and, of course, someexciting things are happening in Nascar with Michael Jordan pit ball, themadding more road courses probably going to add a street courseroadcost racings my you know my main. You know skill set, not that I don'tlove racing on ovels and I haven't on on ovals in the past, but it's an opportunity for me andobviously like the Daytona road course. This year we were, you know we nearly secured atop twenty PS, finishing position. We finished twentythird, which was Rick Weare's best road courseresult. So I'm able to, I guess, still get some results, eventhough it's it's tough, you know still tough, but there's just more opportunity inNascar, because there's so many more people watching it and the televisiondeal ith, some so much bigger and the whole charter system, where the teamsare paid x, amount of millions and that's what enables rick were to financially operate andgive provide opportunities, a very affordable budget relative to Indie car. So youknow, I saw a stap pop up on twitter last year that I had done. I think EIG INDECA. It took me sevenyears through a Indie car races, but it took me three months to do twice asmany NASCAR races. So obviously, you've got to go where theopportunity is as a race driver and I've got this very uniqueopportunity to race Nascar, where I would, I wouldn'tbe racing tas car in any other way. Just simply, I don't have the fundingbehind me to you know: go through exfinity and trucks with a proper teamand this and that and I've had the discussion with myteammate Garrett Smithley. You know, would you want to run Fifteenh inexfinity or run Thirtyet Thin Cup and we both agree. We both prefer to runthirty a think cup because we're part of the big grand show and Yeh it's just there's some colthings happening and the new car, of course, so I'm gaining all of thisexperience and I'm only getting better. And hopefullyI have the opportunity to drive the new car, and there really is some parodythen, and maybe a top ten top fifteen next year on some road courses could be could be a possibility and then, ofcourse you know if that happens, you then get on the TV screens. Then peoplestart knowing who you are, and it just you know a positive snowball effect. So you know you got to be in it to win it.You got to get a start. Some way a lot of people wouldn't do what I'm doingyou know they would the be a bit too concerned. You know, look bad, but I'm okay with swallowing my priderunning. You know in these underfunded situations, but using it as a as like a school for me to Woan all the finedetails. I need to be a masscar driver, so that's why I'm giving it a go? I canrace a lot more than I could with Indie car,and I and I enjoy it. I really love the formula that Mascar is so yeaas well yeah for sure...

I mentioned, or I heard you mentionabout the next JEN car wbut, given your history and racing in weather, tech,cinr rolex. What's one big thing that you think you can take from the sportcar racing base and apply it to that next Gen with some of the similaries wesee with it? Well, I I don't know really enough about it and I haven't driven it of course, but no matter what the car handles like and how it drives. Ifthere's parody instantly, we have a chance, you know and that's what's sogreat about Inde car. You know you can run with Dail coin racing like I have as a third car and runing the top ten at the ND fivehundred and qualifying the top half of the field. You know ahead of and Dreddy cars and Ganasti cars andTony Kanan and Scott Dixon. I mean that's. What's so great about Indi caris the parody there. Now, of course, the top teams are going to generally be at the front, but the smaller teams have the chance- andhopefully that's what's achieved in Nascar for the most part, so we'll see Aso yeah o you guys have anything yeah. So is there you mentione of course, Tisthe equipment difference of Duca. You have a possibility of running top FIFame when you get an ind car, but in Nascar you kind of aim for top s atbest. Usually, but is there a different mindset that you have going into annascares rather than Indi carrace yeah? There is because, even though you know, theoretically, you have thesame right to be on the race trackers, the top twenty five cars. You don't youknow when they come by and lap USS or you know we stay out on on a restart. You know biggest. Our team doesn't haveas many ties as them to just kep, constantly pull in and get you ties onevery caution, you, you don't iit's kind of like an unwritten rule,you just you, don't start at the front of the park on old, attires and thinkthat you have a shot or right to be there because you're just going to be, you know, buffaod out of the way and even if you're on new tirets, theircars are so much quicker that you're going to be you're going to go fromfirst to thirtyer in like three laps, maybe in one corner you'll go first, Ofortyif. If you get wrecked, you know, so it's very different like that. So halfof it is staying out of the way and just not tearing up the cars, thebigger teams and those drivers, they're paid to race very, very hard and havethe budget and the teams have a lot of inventory ofshasses and parts and everything engines and ourteams done so as much as we're still racing againstthe cars in our group. You have a bigger picture of you know, maximizing the revenue forthe team owner and scoring you know, owners points and andthe prize money that comes with it and minimizing the expenditure in anydamage to the car and that's a big part in getting more rides within our smallteam situation. You know that's why Garrett smithly gets rides because heyou know, does a good job and essentially last year was a test for me.You know, can I be competitive and can I not tear up cars? You know? Inevitably, there was goingto be a couple of tough lessons. I had to learn when I never driven stock carbefore I hadn't been to any of the tracks and there was no practiceinqualifying and I just had to wing it. So you know there was a couple of times.I got you know into a few minor incidents, but you know I didn't didn'twrite off any cars and so on so yeah the small team situation is aboutshowing you've got speed to get. You know some top thities ifthere's a bit of atrition but not tearing the car up as well, and that'sjust opposite in the car up the front. Asyou see you know, they're racing so hard up there, because it's just allabout winning and getting all their...

...sponsors and on on TV yeah alrigh. So I have one morequestion than ill hand. It off to one of you, so you've risen Indo five hundred acouple times but is but is like your favorite moment thatyou've had wyl racing int, five hundred o something for sure leading the racein two teantyd seventeen I got called up to substitute for SebastianBoarde in the GYCO sponsored car. So it was my time to shine. It was my bigopportunity and really, as a result of that race.That's why I'm still racing today, because I got backed and supported after you know, puttingin a good showing there, but basically Boarday had one of the fastest cars hewas going to be on Pol and he had the terrible accident that you may recall,and you know brokehes pelvis and they had to substitute another driverin there, and I had driven for Dalcoin racing before I got the call up started last and got to the lead- and you know it's not like. I did anythingdifferent in that race than any other five hundred I drove in the car wasjust fast and that's the big thing with racing is there's so many guys that arecapable, but such few amount of drivers get the opportunity to be inthe equipment where they can actually physically feature up front, and sothat was M my chance, and so I led the Indie five hundred and yea ended up getting in an incident inrunning in the top five on a restart. When we're all racing really hard totry win it, it was kind of like going all in you know. Do it? Do you finishfith or do you just send it nd try and win the end, five hundred, which islifechanging finishing fifth, wouldn't be, but winning it would be so yeah forsure leading the ind five hundred after starting last yeah. It was pretty special that had anon board camera on the car and Alon so was in the race it was, it was o surethe best day of my life. That's really special. That's reallyawesome! I couldn't even have like. If I was in your shes, don't think Icould even imagine lean tinty five hundred a like tha would just be. Thisis one of those things that, as a racing fan you' just like hang on thisis actually happening old. I can imagine te pressure of leading iteither so yeah I mean it went, yellow and sothen it's set in because you can actually think about it. You knowyou're not racing and I'm like the first car behind the PACTECAR and you'going super slow, and then you start noticing how big the crowd is, and Ididn't get you know, like my mind, didn't go off the job, but I rememberjust saying to myself: Man: I've got to try and close this. This is this is unbelievable. I'm actuallybleving me inbe. Five hundred and I've got a legit chance to do it and I just kind of threw no fould of my own.It didn't work out that I got chopped on a restart by castaraevezs and then Igot freight trained and I had to race hard to come back and in doing so, you then put yourself in a positionwhere you can kind of you know, get involved in a wreck and it's rist firstreward and the reward was worth the risk, of course Fr for sure, Asma Goin a know. You havea couple of questions yeah, my first one was just talking aboutobviously done: Sports cars and dem open wheel and now coming into stockcards. I was just wondering what the biggest adjustment was yeah. I mean the obviously you're racing on ovalsprimarily, and I guess the difference in lines is thebiggest thing, that's different, because the sports car they're heavierthan an indie car, their front engine, or at least the ones I race, the astherMartin and the and the Nissan GTR GT three cars they're hot inside and that's allsimilar to NASCAR but Youre. The tirefall off, like I said, is sosubstantial in Nascar and how you go so high up the track to gofaster to roll, more speed and take advantage of the banking and so on.

That was the thing you just got toadjust to a little bit, but I've really enjoyed it and- and I didn't feel thatit took too long to to pick it up. You know you just gut, say you're runningat Richmond, a little short over and traction becomes an issue, and you knowyou're on new ties and you're running the bottom and then, after a few youknow ten plus Farp fifteen twenty up, you start having traction issues, andthen I saw a car in front of me running one lane higher and I'm like. Okay.That makes sense to me why he'd be running one lane higher when he's gotthe same tie life that I do I'm starting to lose grip going higher. NowI can roll a bit more speed and get the will straighter and improve thetraction so someti yeah things like that and yeah realy enjoyed it at Adlanceron the weekend as well, just running the different lines and so on. It'spretty cool R sure. My other question is obviouslyhasn't been too long since you made your Nascar debut, but I was wonderingwhat you feel like he'v improved on the most since you've joined yea. I mean it's really everything. It's the restarts, the confidence to to send it on cold tires out of thePITZ or on the start, coming on to pit road and not speeding-and you know you don't- have the pitlane speedy limit or coming intoyour box just all the procedures, it's it'severything, just little small improvements or allthe time since there's no practice, you knowyou' kind of stuck with what you've got at the beginning of a race, so you know get it getting the carto handor how you want off. The BAT is a bit random, because no one really knowswhat their cars going to do, but yeah it honestly. It's everything,just just everything, starts becoming second nature to you and you're, not sounsure, and I remember the first time I did myfirst race of poken or you know you start getting passed by. You know whenyou get wapped and all these you'e like well, I'm actually on track with KylBush and Kevin Harvick and Jimmy Johnson and Bah Blah Blah. Andnow it's just like yeah, okay. I know I know theyre just I've been on trackwith these guys. Many times before and I have confidence to not mess up and be in the right placeand those guys there's a lot of signals outside oftheir window nets. I'm not sure if you see it on TV, but when they come by us,they stick their hands out the window and just kind of like you know, give you the peace sign or somethingjust like o thanks for getting out of the way or not screwing me or knowing Iwas there and yeah I mean there was a lot of that. Actually at Atlantor I gotsome like I guess. Thank you S, Yol call it from Lik Kyle, Bush and Truex,and in the past, I've gotten them from Curt Bush, Kizoouski and yeah. It'scool when you know that they appreciate you know that your you've got their you're, respecting their race andyou're, doing a good job at what your job is, which is to run out of theirway and run your own race so solid. I know you told Tro that you may nothave had a lot of time so and making cad and usually ask this, but given howlong you've already been here, what's one story that you may have from thetrack or race weekend that really stands out? Oh well, look since the whole covid situation has completely changed a normal raceweekend, where you wouldn't chat with other drivers and so on andso forth. It's eliminated. All of that. So I don't. I don't have anything in particular from my copexperience, but when I drove in exfinity with Joe Gibbs on the roadcourses, I was teammates with Christopher Bell and, to be honest, Ihad no idea who Christopher Bell was at that time like that he raced on dirt orany of that, and he had no idea who I was. But we were teammates and I got in the Joe Gibbs car and andbasically dominated top practice, started on the front row drove off intothe distance and won the first stage...

...and Christopher Bell was yeah. I guess learning how to roadcorsedrive at that point and he was leaning on me for some some help and I washappy to help him and he- and I have been friend friends ever since, butI'll, never forget that you know from where I'm from we say: oversteerolundersteer and I was telling HMI EA. You know the car can be a bit better.It's got a bit of understand, he's hike. What's what's I understard and I'm likewhat like sore me. You know what I'm the ster is he's like what like likeTipe and I'm like yeah 'm and to me like Tiht, was like who says type the Housis, tight and Loos, and all this stuff, it's liktight and lose it's like it's either oversteering or understeering, and soyeah. We just like we just came from such different backgrounds like a dirtguy driving on a road course and yeah it was that was colld that wascool tha. That makes more sense, thoughoverskear and understeer yeah yeah, I that makes more sense and it's a reallyit's a more like technical term. I guess yesas car the only the only timelike troy and I can even explain using thatas when we race online. That's really the only that's e, really, the onlyreason we know Wutd all that her know about that yeah. I want to end this off with one lastquestion. I know you like it's all tight on time, but you mentioneddriving for Jo Gibbs and you must have got lik some kind of call or somethinglike that from Joe gibs. What was it like him like given opportunity to race forHem? Well, so what I had to do first was geta start in the expinity series, so I drove the ninety car when I guess itwas even more underfunded than it is now, and everyone knows you know, these cars arevery underfunded. So long story short, I qualified eighteenth, where about thecar is good for, but got up to seventh after the start and first restart, and I then th. I remember the TV camera wenton me because I pulled this like three wide lunge down into turn: Fivate RoadAmerica on bubble, Wallace and Justan old eyer and a you I just like sent it, and our car was so sclow in Ta StraightLine, and I was just eating up all f the breaks and tires and everything butlong Stori Short, it put me on the radar. So that is howI got chatting with Joe Gibbs and it was very special when the deal wentthrough and I went to Thir shop and my crew chief was Chris Gabehart, who ofcourse, is Denny Hamelin's crew chief now and become quite renownd and and Chris and I got along reallywell, the team is their attention to detail, is awesomehow they look after the driver and make sure your whole fit in the cars there. Chris gave me a great car. Any changesI needed to it. He gave them to me and I didn't drive any different and I metthe front. You know essentially dominating the race and it just goes toshow how much the equipment matters in Nascar. It's unbelievable. I mean at the Datin Road Course I was my fastest. Lat was three and ahalf seconds off the fastest car, who, I think was Christopher Bell andwhenever Christopher and I werd teammates, you know I was a little bitquick, because that was my my background right, but it just goes toshow like how you know how good these top teamsare. Like you, you just you, don't do anything different andyou just at the front. So it was an awesome experience, the Drivwith Jo gibs, but you know I only had the sponsorship to do one or two racesand to get anywhere you've got to be able to do one or two seasons. You knowlike one two, three seasons and expinity and trucks like Bell Syndric,you know chase BRISCO and if you don't have it, that's where it's difficult sohence how I'm driving for Rickwer, because Ijust have an opportunity to go racing period and learn.

That's a yeah yeah hat's! Reallyawesome thanks for thanks for given a time of your nightto talk with us and answer. A lot of our questions means a lot yeah. If youhave one more, I can I can fit it in. If you guys was, I gonto say shoot. Iwas just thinking of it, I'm like O. No, why you like racing, would you say its kindof your favorite CAPP cadens, very biased, towards gifts? Oh, I know wiastill, osing it yeah. I meanto have a good relationship with Jo givs racingand bell and Kyle Bo. I do some I racing with Kyle Bush yeah. I definitely have I like to see them do well and you knowit'll be a dream to drive for them in the Cup series. I'm not really sure howrealisic that is, of course, never say never, but yeah. I have a lot of respect for how thatteam is run. There's a reason why they're a winning team and you justcook at their sponses as well. You know big brands that they have as sponsorswouldn't be associated with them. If they were, you know they weren'tprofessionals. You got some good taste, though I like Joget, Jason Yeah. They remember my one on one question: Real,quick: What's a what's a short term goal that you say you would have andwhat's a long term call short term, I would like to think I canget a top twenty this year on a road course now. There'll have to be someatricion as ever for that to happen, but we nearly banked it a day toner. Iwas just getting ready to pass Ryan Newmanfor Twentye with two and a half laps to go and my break pedal went to the floor.A D we droppd back two three positions to twenty Thir, but it was realistic,just kind of knowing that the car we can get it to handle better,and there was a few things I was fighting. I don't think we had newbreaks on the car at that race, and so we kind of know. Okay, with thisblowdown force package, you got to put brand new stuff on the car. You can'tget away with not having new gear there'll be a practice session atAustin, so getting the car touned will be. You know this more chance ofgetting the cartoune right and Austin's going to be a lot toughertrack, so these cup guys are going to be challenged at that track. Now thetop top guys will be just fine, but some of them will be. You know that aren't real road course,races, they're going to be challenged and that's going to be my time to capitalize. So I'm pretty excited to be honest forlike road, America and Austin and in particular of the road courses long term. It would be to think that Ican do at least twenty races next year with the new car and that there willindeed be some good parody and I can kind of feature up there in the top,maybe fifteen genuinely and and then of course you know therecould be some good dividends of that right where some of the bigger teams canstart looking at you, because they can actually gauge how good you are or not. But as thingsare right now, they just don't know exactly how good you are when you'rerunning around in equipment. That's three seconds of that off. You know.It's tough so yeah, that's the short term and longterm goals. That's awesome, that's a yeah! I wishyou luck with all that. That seems really realistic. Honestly, you could be the the next like eras said, or something Ambros,even Hambros Wel ex Roado Reng. Everyone has their eye on every singleroad course. Yeah I mean things have changed sincethose days of the ringers like borasaid Ron, fellows Ambros, because there'smore road courses being brought in and the simulators that the teams have areso reallistic. Now that the drivers get unlimited opportunity to get better onthe top teams and I've driven the Toyota simulator when I drove for JoeGibbs and it is, it is awesome, like I did the same laptime on the simulatorthat I did in the real car, and I mean it's like ninety to ninetyfive percent- accurate. It's really...

...really good. So it's it's getting tougher to kind ofjust you know, make up the difference if you're in a smaller team, but I knowit's possible, though, because you know a couple of these road courses. Youknow I can I can get by like Ryan, human and cory or joy kind of in the second half of TA stintand a couple of other other guys so yeah, let's see, let's see what Austinthrows. I think that's going to be pretty exciting, I'm excited for it I'll be on thelookout. GROD COURSE FAN Soyi'll, be of the excited forthat between roadcourses and shorttrack IM. Those are yea and- and they say they're going toadd a street course next year. So next year, e haven't heard that yet ow we Rayeahi, don't know but ISWHO'sthe president of Mascar now felps. Yes, the felt that's who I thought I justdidn't want to say the wrong name, but I believe he mentioned it when he announced the two thosand andTwen two thousand and twenty one schedule that it's theire intent, Odt a street courseand I've always thought how cool it would be if it happened to be LongBeach- and you can just imagine like all the cars going through the Fountainarea and ripping out all the flowers in the garden ban. You know what I meanand just be chaos o be awesome if that happens, yeah not to be biased, butplease be Toronto. Yeah T's, like I like Toronto, that'sone of my favorite street courses. I've raced, there least three three times, yeah race etthree times. No, maybe four, but it was. It was it's a good time up there andthat's a great track, we'll see? Oh Yeah, all right guys, wo thanks foryour Yeah Yeah! Thank you yeah! It's pretty latebut thank Youocoming on and you go yo Rey appreciate it. No worries will chat son. Will we watcharout for you yeah good Licka? I season yeah thanks, guys, see yeah, so Onyou Finis just pick our driver Ng out yeah. Well, yeah, I'm Firstso Yeah Youre Fir yeah thats druhe picks you going with Bell Yeah. I wasdebating between bell and BERSCO, because I'm I don't want to overthink.I I was like. Oh maybe, if I go brisko he'll do better than bell woitd aut adifferent track, but I'm going bell. I not overthing yeah. I'm surprisedyou're not sa from Berl, honestly to one of the better tecks but yeah ht, so you're gone was Bisas been liketwenty eight, so I mean I'm not Lon. I just feel like I have more faith inBellod der and I go brisko wit BUSCO, that's fair. I just feel like I don'thave faith with Brisco anywhere an I'm trying to mess with this. I should I go next. Well, no, no titgoes in a order. ENOT NO YO is based off of laxt or last week'sresult. So there for iniqin points s they were going to. Who did I pick lastweekyou had ami took harvick and he decided to not throw up again foranother race but honestly, thou outside of Tyle. That would have been my bestchoice. Nick took bell, so I can't take bell. You know what I'll go with kyle bullish, yeah. Okay. I think I go next sor because I fon asecond, you finished. First, NO HAMON FINISH: Ihad a Bodon Yeah Yep your next. It's note, newminor Dellen both havedirt experience, but I think Newman's been raceder for longer aftan. That'sreally I no brainer, I'm GOIN NA go newman. Honestly. There was a bettertrace to because of other races on the schedule. Oh maybe it'a Tago, but yeahDaga. Anyone, I don't even know, won w. Who Else I have I'm going to be plearly,honest yeah? If You walt to taken blany, he really been in good spy. Last week taken awayme, I said I was thinking itwas either going to be blany. No, I said I was going to say blaey for Daga,but why would it save anybody for Dagottoday yeah all right? Try Your tetory! My next yeah I'm goingto take...

Chas Brus TCO for Bristol. I have lorstnoil list, but with the I mean he's good at Evertreck,so I think it's smarter to bank on him for this future track. I think that raps it AA yeah I do want to talk aboutnoever ine is to we didn't even do a previewof Bristol Teres to El Bir, Other weve got like five t yeah. We can make a picture quick or will we expect?Oh Yeah Tu first question: Do we expect thatit's going to be a mess, or is it going to be a mess theyresar going to be tameup until the final ten laps? Then it's going to be a mess. It's going to beanest the whole time yeah. I think it's gonna a is gontobe over and over. It'sjust going to be like the Irasing Racinof, the Bristol Normal Birsta lastyear. I like this. Was it be like a dumpster fire for their first twostages and then the final stage Oul be whatever dirt guys are left honestly?Finally, stay won't even be whatever dirt guys are life. Is Us me, whateverguys are left in general? No, because, like those like, I guysthose eight or nine guys that have third experience will be there yeah, probably and that'll, be it I'm just crying that Larse another one.That's thing I thik I'm picking Lison. I think we need to make sure or we need to pray. Itdoesn't rain because it always rains this weekend atBristol, but it is Raine and I goto a race. I Jo wh are you going Toorin? There is Taadega Fall, Othousandnineteen twothousand and twenty s, two thousandand Twenty Daytona Pent Twenty one daytonaony noictrury tr you're theNASCAR curse. It's not the PODCAST AA ocuren, it's the eukrs, it's Er,thereas a there's, a few weekends in a roampnbut Oth I wouldtalokayyesno onetimeit was bad one time they couldn't even fitit in because there's actuallylike puddls on the track. Itas bad, that's a good thing about CKMP thos! Ifit's raining, you can watch it certain spots from your car. If there's a spotweyou can nice I' Hono I pick win. Oh Wo fix winChristo. I want bell to win so bad. If, if there's going to be a first two timewinter, the season I wanted to be bell just to put more championship pipe onHem. I think BRISCO's going to win just topiss off everyone with the Bam playoffs and to have another first time winter.This season. Imagine Imagine I want to go forst time winter, but I'm goingLarson. I feel, like he's, obviously so good on dirt. His car's been fast oyear. I think Hendec, I don't know, I know he's been good under, but I mean Ilike to argue: Chrisopher Baw is up there like right neck and neck withLarson it'll be a REPETO. I shiy diffent on Dirtbut Ingear, pee FOtheyeah theyre battle, an we repeat of the chilly wo, we're going to haveaninsan.

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