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Episode 28 A Twisted Finish in a Twisted State

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What a wild weekend it was in Kansas! In this episode we review all that went on, give a big interview with Alex Labbe and so much more as we gear up for NASCAR’s throwback weekend!

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Welcome to Mascart's while podcast. I'm Kane, joined here by Troy and Chris, and we're going to go everything. Oh, we're gonna go over everything Kansas related. We're going to maybe talk about some throwbacks, we're going to go over some of the what is this like? The third of the way through the through the season, almost halfway through the regular season already? Yeah, we're get we're getting there. We're getting there, and then we're gonna do our fantasy picks like we always do, and then we're gonna have a special guests later. I will tell you about more about them later. So let's start it off. Troy, how is your weekend? Broke? My Week was pretty good. It just step up for most weekends and yeah, the racing was not as bad as I thought would be. Chris, how how's are you been doing in the seam? Seemed entertaining. Yeah, it's definitely provided way. It's probably the best moment, the best second, Best Mile and half that and homestead of right right on top of okay, forgot said existed. WHO's for time? If we're if we're talking cookie cutters, can't Oh, yeah, we're talking cookie cutters. Yeah, cant like intermediate, like home sit's right here, and like the second best is like done here. Oh No, Kansas is right up there with homestead, and this is really good. Kansas is really good. Kansas is better at night. It has to be the night race. Canada, this race, this risk is overday Kansas is the only cookie cutter that provides the goodson dog water mile and a half package to actually look someone nice. I mean. The next best mile and a half other than those two, I would say, is Vegas. Vegas isn't that bad. I like Vegas, not the spring race. I like the Fall Vegas race. Charlotte with the package is not good. Charlotte's little bad Texas. Texas is bad no matter what. To Cat Lana's bad to Oh, I despise that. Let Atlanta's like my least favorite tracking all masks are by far. Oh my God, can't drive their Naskar he five and I hate the race. In your real life. I'm getting hanging in asking me for I'm proud of myself and a little it high, and you just out of my discs work, for they haven't been working for, like I saw it, like two weeks now. I'm pretty depressed. We're gonna we're going to jump right into it. We have some news that came out. So first off, calling racing and us that in two thousand and twenty two they're going to be full time cup racing. The driver has not been announced, but it is not too early to speculate who it'll be. Who Do you think it'll be? True? Yeah, I'M gonna say it'll be just a a lily this because like has girl doesn't have that much experience with them. They're kind of cup driver and like Alma danger, you know, he has the experience, of course, but like he's not. He's a little old and like it's easier to take a younger drivers. Is Justin Haley, even though he's not that good, which that is grown old doors. He a grady. Hayley's as only too. I'll look it up right now. I was twenty two. Yeah, they're, they're both. Are they mentioned that in a race where the towel dagger. I think Hayley's older by like three four months. Haley Ling was are older? No, Halen Groller with twenty two. So well, yeah, but yeah, which one's older? Numb nuts. I know. Look at the month and I feel we both me and Chris Bout knew they were both twenty two. As a whole point of you looking them up was to find what Miley like six months older. Okay, I called it. Yeah, Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay, I don't know. Growl was younger than me by a few weeks. Hayley's only than me by a couple months. I think they'll put gral in it. I don't think they'll put Haley in it. I think Hayley will stay down and exfinity until Kurt retires and then go to the one card. That is such a waste, to the one car. It's a waste of Nassy racing anyway. Oh my God, shore can as say two thousand and twenty two. Well, we don't know, retire. I don't think he's gonna retire at the end of this year. You know, I think I can home here with the yeah, one year next time. That's what most drivers are doing. That's what tricks is here. Tricks isn't like he's gonna Retire. Probably announced like after the first mile. Lass he's gonna be like this shit sucks. Everything about this sucks. I'm retiring. I'm done at the end of the season. Completely forgot. Next says begin as weather day. That is two days, Oh my God, till that is, although they all got weaked already, except for the Toyota. They got Lee but they got late. But we don't really know everything about them yet. I'm more interested don't what the package is going to be rather than what the car is going to look like. The car looking is important, but I want to know whether they're going to race. Like the Chevy had the big guess boiler that we see at the mile and a half nowadays, and then the Ford had the the small bloody. So they could...

...be showing one of each type of track, like a super speedway, a short track and a mile and a half. Yeah, it's true. I think bags setting stuff. Yeah, I think growla goes to the DOD. They ask the number. I see now. I'm assuming sixteen, because all elevens taken, times taken. It's about it. You know, they're they pretty much have there made their arm name. I Guess Sixteen Cor yeah, now we mean. I don't think it's going to be amondinger. I don't see anyway it will be. He's too old and he's not as good as people think he is, and I don't think it'll be Haley because, well, I have no reason it for to be Haleie. I just think it'll be Grala. Well, I just wanted to be growling more than Haley. We're going to go on our next piece of news, and this is a very controversial one, and that's for at least the Allstar for now. And it's like it's huge gimmick and it's a whole mess. It is so stupid and it doesn't it doesn't need to be this complicated. But you got this. Hang on, hang on, this can be summed up in one word, in one word only. Texas. Yea, I like it. Yeah, it's now. Did you hear whe they're doing to the car? So they doing something different. They're putting, putting the basically putting the serious play right tape super speed right now. Yeah, I think, I think it could be interesting. Honestly, I think it could be stupid. It's gonna be a Rt. I think it'll be a breakfast. Honestly, I don't think. I don't think it'll be. I mean, how long is it? Isn't it like six runs with fifteen lap laps? Don't even it's something stupid. It's so literally stupid. It's overly complicated. That's what it is. I can't be as bad, can't be as Brad as Bristles last year. I wait, yeah, it's probably going to be worse. Actually, it'll be worse. It'll we were. It's at Texas and then what is this? The next news is it will start over there. Yeah, that's next news. You want to talk about it? Sad, and I think Kata wants to talk about it. I mean, I don't think anyone's really want to talk about that kind of starts. Yeah, sad news that came out of GMS racing this morning him that sponsorborship fell through for rouffaelissard and he will no longer be in the twenty four truck for the rest of the season, which it's kind of sucks because he was. He's had fast trucks all year. You shown the news, capable of winning and possibly being a championship contender, but he was a nineteen points blow a plaoff cart line and now he'll no longer be competing for the rest of the season in the twenty four. That is, if you don't get like a smaller ride or something like that. I think I'm stupid. It's I think. Why would they, why would they announce he's going to run full time if they didn't have the sponsorship too? I think I was a stupid to run five trucks anyways. And Zane said, if I'm not saying he's a bad driver, but he hasn't performed whatsoever this year. Barely has sheldon creed. So I think GMS, this is the downfall of gamass. Starts with the starry right now calling it. Yeah, I didn't notice how much of a downfall they've been going through, but like they're really in a really tough situation. I'm also someone compared to the red horse racing, where there were like they were like winning competer for championships and all of a sudden they just slowly close down at then like middle of two thousand and seventeen. That's kind of what's happening. You know, they have zero sponsorship, they have barely any sponsorship for any of the drivers. Yeah, and then there's a or other driver. Is it Tyler anchorm? Yeah, they kept she's over lists are because it kept party over Lasar, because it because anchor and pretty have someone sponsorship. So if you can, are really got robbed. The S are y'all wrong. Oh, I feel bad for these. Sorry, especially since he's only my favorite truck series driver. And then I don't think he's going to race any other race for the next rest of the season. I don't see any rides that open up and even if it's going to be a ride that opens up, it's going to be a small team ride that's going to run thirty s with a mechanical failure five laps in. God GMS is my least favorite team to Alves Maska. And and one last thing. So rhyan read is it wasn't like confirmed their announcement? Yeah, right away. Yeah, that happened right away. With the hell it is like before. None of these have by like GMS, plashed on the roster from the table over twenty four sex depidly. You're going to replace Ryan. Why? Ryan read? Why not just keep starting in the truck sponsorship with no sponsorship? I can't afford that. They can't. They can't afford him having five trucks. But they decide to...

...do that. They defend, they decide to keep two untalented truck drivers. They do they like talent, chase party, and then none of them. That bad. Chase pretty isn't doing that. You still no matter the time. No, she's pretty doing worse. Come on, at least at least tyler anchor has been like upping his performance, like chase pretty hasn't done Alwa, he's getting top twenty's Chris did to getting a top twenty in a truck. That should be top ten. Don't yeah, but me and shut we're talking about that. Whole team had a downfall. They like the Stewart Hoss racing of the but worse. Well, I don't know what worse, honestly, wors and creeds up there. So there's up there. Zane Smith has been sucking this ear. Yeah, he's been pretty mediocre. It's kind of said, well, he's seven points. He's not doing terrible. It's just a John Hunter. Nima check is running every race. So, yeah, he's over powered. Bro That's crazy. I'm mission of OPE that's John Hunter in a truck this year. Yeah, that's only needed. You just on God that man, that man best not wins thetmp this year. On go if if they got to open up still core, cust everybody stand the truck series. Um, don't get flipped. A good I hope it's starry, gets a one one race to you, raises Canada and wins. I hope he puts like. I hope he rex John Hunter Nema check for the win and then he also recks like every gmas truck. No, Ben Rose hasn't done anything I like been roads. He's like a top five favorite truck driver for me. Do you forget lack here like all of a sudden, I did. I didn't hate him last I just didn't really like I like us. I mean he's more mature this year than he was last year. HMM, do you want to go into reviewer quick because like there's not that much review. I mean really, we can skip the whole first two stages and the first half. Well, the truck race just trackers, blah, blah, Black Kyle Bush, John Hon her, Nama check, same old, same old. Kyle Bush wins this time. This time. When you is reality? Did I watched truck race by completely forgot what even happened in it. There was a touch the truck race, the second to last restarted. Kyle fellow like fourth. Oh yeah, wants over this. Yeah, the finish was pretty good. Chaste and he'll just throw themselves through their ways away too much stupid drivers like in Nascar, chess sting. There, she uses brain in the cup race. So he did. He's actually been and then he fell. Stand we he's been pretty good. Yeah, Talladega put him, got him a lot of them like down. Well, many race, the truck race. He's like, all right, I know what I'm kind of doing, so I think I can do this. Yeah, I think I can do this. Steven in the cup race. Yeah, Um me, Christian ches and ninety eight with fourth. That's pretty good. Yeah, I'll forgot its running ten A. Sorry, Guy, eight, yea eighth, but he's getting here. He tacon. Hayley d get out a good day. She was top ten at some points, but you know, the restarts didn't really help her. Yeah. Yeah, that's the one thing that she struggled at like more than anything else this season is restarts. Yeah, that's much a bad as I feel like show them. Create had problems to put that cup race. I think we can go on to give a gros going to couperation. Cuprey started off boring and it was. It was kind of a reminiscent of what we saw last year with HARVEC and Lagano. Like it started off like that, like Byron was way fast, thanks lasty, but he could never get around him. And then you have going for the past, which held them both up, and then all of a sudden here comes like Kyle Bush, Kaylar's I'm pretty sure Reddick was there too, was he not? Yeah, right, because their five really I love car, but he just fell right again. And Byron Um penally later in the race. Oh, did he? He was the one that had the tire about that? Oh, yeah, which, yeah, that'd be fun to talk about when we get that. That's it. Yeah, look at that. Yeah, Bush goes around the bottom passes both Byron and Kes Lasky and Bush that was that's his reverse. That was my favorite, probably one of my favorite stage win battles of the year. It's other like Vegas with Quz Laski and Larson. Thats a really good stage finish. Or enjoyed watching that. Yeah, and then stage two was literally the oposite, completely green stage. She was ours isn't dominated all the way. I Hate Lawson up on the house swears his team put him on a strate. She just killed them as...

...he was like top fifteen and then he stayed out for the whole tire run and pitted it. And then we're thirty. It's like what was the point of that? But they every good, we'll get to that. Kyle arson gets the stage when I think we all really expected him that too. And then stage three starts. Is good restart and then it's got strung out again. Then Green Flake pit stop started rolling around and drivers were coming in and here comes the you know, there's a little typical strategy. Some drivers are going to stay out for extra like twenty labs. He comes tyler radic down pit road. His tea or his crew member loses a tire. It's in the grass blatantly. We all can see it. So Chris Busher over there is running his laps. He's like, okay, we're going to get a caution here, but there was no caution. I would have been fine if they threw the caution immediately, but they we go around one lap, there's no caution. Okay, now we're getting to like five laps and there's still no caution. I'm sitting here like what are they doing? And we get to ten laps, still no caution. We get like twenty laps in, Busher comes down pit road finally and they throw the caution. They screwed busher. I get it. Yeah, they didn't want Busher to screw the field, but I mean it's a safety violation. They can't just not throw the caution. Do you know what NASCAR said? They're reasoning for that was but to let the race flow with green flag pit stops. Yeah, they said it. They said it one when they first found the tire there. They're like NASCAR usually wants green flight pit stops to all cycle through and then through the caution. But it's like, yeah, if it's that, if it's that big of a safety violation, they would have thrown the car. It is caution worthy to throw the caution right away. But if it's like it's not that big of a deal that you're able able to wait twenty and twenty five laps for the caution, then wants to point of throw into caution. People actually saying NASCAR's inconsistent. I'm they're like, oh no, no, they're not, and then it's like yeah, prime example it was. It was the that was one of the worst. That was artificial race and that was them producing. They knew whether they were doing they we're trying to get it as close as they can. Before Busher came down a pair road, which should be just prime time for chaos, which ended up causing chaos and and a driver's days. Ultimately, they cost the team's money and I think Nascar should find themselves like Eric a step said K and they give K to rush fenway, give K to Jatt dotary, because they screwed their days and what ended up happening was both priests antstenos would dnf from that because string of caution and Bush, you're still finished like twelve. He finished eight. He got a ten out of it. Yeah, he did. Yeah, you got a top ten of who knows? Maybe he maybe he would have won. We don't know. He probably wouldn't know, but maybe he would have won. But it's artificial racing because NASCAR decided. You know what, not feeling a caution right now. Let's just wait. We've Restar and a Hamlin takes the lead on the bottom from Larson and he's a doing with Lagana did last year, just like blocking the Larson went and everything that, and then awful for handlon chokes it and just slams them and like a half lap later he books tied and there's another caution. I think that's a for like a every star would like five to go. Very reminiscent of cancels last year, Hawk Chris Oh very reminiscent, I fear, what happened and wouldn't know what happened when stenhouse first spun Um Trick. He got loose and then lose understood up. Yeah, and then hit Syndric and then coming on the back trader, he just spun. Yeah, yeah, in centers, having a freaking good day to you was yeah, he's doing garbage. I'm choking. He's I'm sorry. I remember like fifteen pete hate. At least no one was doing as bad as Matt Mills and I called it last week. He went down a lap within the first ten laps of the race. I mentioned his name there, mentioned his name once. That was in e race. Yeah, Matt Meles, yeah, that's the last time we're talking about him. He finished twelve flaps down. He wasn't involved at anything. Yeah, because you so slowly couldn't keep up. Livenin live, livet fast motor sports living up to their name. Huh Well, speaks about clouds team. Let Him. was like he's coning and owning a team in that what happened to live fast motor sports? They ran. They're doing nothing. I haven't doing better than Rick Wueer. They are slight. I haven't heard that team. I actually kind of forgot about that team, not gonna lie. Yeah, now I'm the same. Why I haven't heard that a single word. I have them. Yeah, they are ahead of all of the rick where cars.

At least. You know, it's not much, but at least it's something. something. Syndrak is ahead of the fifteen car and starcom. Oh my God, ass both of his rays. Oh No, he didn't n AF Kansas. I don't think didding. Okay, Um, well, this would about late a string of cautions. I feel so bad for standous. I was talking about Chris Busher getting robbed, but stenhouse at all. He was staying out on the strategy. Came down pair road. He's like, okay, you know, it didn't work out. You know we'll get them next time. Gets involved into it two of the next two instants. Feel so bad. You gotta shove from like Chase Elliot or something. He got worse. Swarz, no, Surez, another one my favorites. That was a stupid move. What he did. He just drove into the corner. Shoving. You do what Larsen did to Blaney. He didn't turn, he just drove in the corner. Something didn't oh it's a restart, let's get so mad about it. Well, Christopher Bolchri Rell had a top ten, another top ten day. This man is on. I'm telling you, he's still my championship Crick and I'm not even joking anymore. I think this man will actually win the championship. Have you seen the way he's been a running? He's like top five. Will the HALS? Dude, he's he's in the playoffs standing. He's like the least in points of all the drivers that have won. Well, you get screwed consistently by everybody. Yeah, shut up, at least not Kurt Bush, for and talk about Christis Kurbuss fourteen points out, mad to Benedetto came from like fifty points and Mad Demnedetto is ahead of twelve points, because that makes is bad. We're doing so much better than you think. So the rest, the final restart. We don't have to talk about the final restart. I don't like the happen on the final so on the final free start, um on the bottom lane. It's joke. Gives teammates of tricks and Kyle Bush and I'm top of and it's Larsen and Blaney and Oh okay, that switched to Chris. So milne is running his lane now and just hooks arson like not large. He didn't all the way around Lars. Lars you can't. You can't go that high in the corner and lock onto someone's bumper. And now that was all large, word it, Larsen, just when you didn't even I don't even think Larson turned. I saw him just go straight. He did. He was it was a stupid yeah, because card it's a turn when you're going that high and you're Larsen it. Larsen is a stupid driver. I'll say that. I don't think he I think he's over aggressive. I think I was a stupid move, which I think if you didn't make that move, he might have had a shot at the top five. All the four tires and two tires were catching him, but he might have had a shot at the top five. But he didn't because they screwed himself and Ryan Blanney over, which is really unfortunate for Blady, not so much for Larson. But this is just another reason why I don't like Larsen. I was very sad with the outcome. Also, shatter to turn to be six man's was like twelve all day because he needed everyone else in front of him to spend every shadow the chase. You got put in the wall and I'll make it all top five and like a half of that. Well, Eliot went to the Bendegast for. Oh yeah, we committed nowhere in top for. But I'm kind of I'm really happy. I want to see Cole Bush up a bounce back season and I think I think he will start getting better, but I don't think he'll go on like his two thousand and seventeen, twenty eighteen days. No, I don't think we'll ever see that out of him again. Now. I think his his prime is I think it's over. Yeah, I think his prime is over, but I still think he'll be pretty damn competitive. You'll see that. I'll go round of eight contender, but I don't think he'll be a championship spread. No, meet your championship championship for right now you'd all be the same. Should be true. Exam and look on a or Larsen actay. I don't think it'll be larks. I think Larsen's gonna blow it. I think Lars Morrison would definitely blow it in some way. Dude, look at the tracks. Yes, I were in the round of Eight. Byron's Iron Byron is the best enter car right now. It is chase ellis the worst yaker. Yeah, at least been really medium. Bowman's Bowman's had really bad luck, which I mean it's fucking have a win, but he's not. But like Elliott's just kind of like mediocre. He's like yeah, the head of well points right now. But yeah, Cuz because Bowman's been having a lot of bad days in like the mid twenties after running top ten. Yeah, yeah, I would say Elia has the best luck, if you could say, because he doesn't have any bad luck this season other than like Daytona road course. He's been, I can't remember, lot fair. No, yeah, I don't think he's gonna win. I don't.

I don't think he's going to win. Maybe until like the playoffs. I would say. I don't see when to go to. Well, look, if there's like hundred food court versus he's I feel like he's good everywhere. He could win anywhere. He's not nd have where's he not going to Indie O, for one, anymore. We're not going to Kentucky anymore. It's like his two worst track of the schedule. It's so quickly notable finishes. My deada got fourth. Redick bounce back to seven, Chris Busher Eight, William Byron another top five, another top ten in nine. Austin done with a third straight top ten and ten. Sworez bounces back to eleven, and that's a good comeback for that team. Do Woman the garage? What? Yeah, chest and starting to click off consistent top fifteen. So that's good for him. Oh God, beat his teammate. You can jump in the fantasy. I think we should. Yeah, I've got I've got a strategy. It's a stupid worry. Would have first, since he finished worst out of all of us. She didn't finish words Darlington. I'm picking Slowski. He won there in the past and he's probably, I mean besides tricks, probably the best that I have in the lineup at Grnton. Fair enough, caden will be up next. Okay, it's my chase ellie is a really good road courser bro but I don't chase brisk. Chas briscoes pretty good our road courses and I don't trust trace BRISCO chase brush coode. I don't trust chase BRISCO anywhere else. So I'm going to pick chase Elliott for Darlington. Okay, he's not bad. They're it's not bad. They're it's not amazing. There he couldn't taken them. Oh, he could have won last year for cover. Well, I have got one. This springer se shouldn't have won the fall rice. I was just packages fault. Yeah, we're going to see who's actually good at Darlington here this week. Yeah, she's Ali. It's going to finish that last and screaming out of one race. Since Nick finished first out of us, that puts me next. Did you have an easy pick on her? I see your easy pick. If you don't pick this guy, then I don't know because I got to think about the rest of the tracks that we're going to yeah, dover, Cooda Coake, six hundred. This is still easy. No, I think. I think I'm going to use this as my thory race. Really? Yeah, yeah, because I have an idea. I have an idea. I like these ideas. So I'm going to take out Mo Rolla this week. Okay, way, okay. So Dylan's is not good, like any other track of this UN like. Could do you realize that we have the coach six hundred? Yeah, and fuel mileage race? Okay, every year. Yeah, okay, I'm best not pull through and when the coke six sounded, I will be serious. Nick and Nick or last. Where am I? Guys? I literally give Newman custer tricks and Jones or who we Darlington? Yeah, Jones is not finished outside the top five at Darlington. Yeah, Jones bad. Yeah, he's also not gonna take them anyway. Before I got cut off, but I'll take Jones. Smart Man, smart dude. That there's fantasy. Well, here is our special guests. We got Alex Lovey, two thousand and seventeen pinty series champion. He's raced select fin select races and exfinity and we're going to ask him questions, asking several stuff. So tried. You want to start us off? Yeah, I'll stir. I'll start you off. Um, so I usually ask this too many drivers. What driver growing up influence you to most to become a driver? Yeah, probably like one Montoya, because that was I was like to go car. I was racing go cards and I was kid and I was watching a lot formula one and it was like my idol when I was when he was running for BMW and informal one. So I kind of always looked up to him and kind of trans kind of men made the same patism. When we're from my road racing open and wheels to ACAS, I want to I've never really raised openings, but from gold cards to stock cars and now, I'd say he's probably was probably one of my biggest influences at when I was younger. Christ, you have a question? Yeah, all right. So, and I've only recently gotten into the pinty series over the past couple of years as trying to diverse my racing knowledge more. What's what's one big takeaway that you're able to get from the pinty series and take it to exfinity when you moved over there? Probably all the short track stuff, because we painties were pretty...

...much a light mollified, to say my little, eavier than I like all well, less hero dynamic and a little I roll center all that stuff. But it looks a lot more like like mal like we're talking if we'd think about Super Light Mal with tires and the motor and stuff like that. But yeah, it's a bar probably like short track and road course stuff. For sure a little bit, even if dicfnity cars are driving a little bit different, I'd sound like the biggest biggest difference between boat or definitely that they're going from a biassply tire or real play a hideal tire and explity. That's that's probably what's the we the biggest adaptation, I'd say. For sure. I want to send home that Kane. Nay, ask anything and I try to figure out some more. You want me to go. So my first one was obviously we don't see too many Canadians in Nascar in general, but we don't especially see many make the jump from painties to exfinity. I was just wondering how that sort of transpired. I think it worked out pretty good because I've had a really good relation with Mario and the owner of DGM racing, and we've been working together her for a lot of time. I mean he's helped me when I started racing, like Moley was helping me build my cars and set up my cars and all that stuff. So He's is out is that me on a technical part and he's alt me here as a driver also. He's been my own like kind of a driver coachince I started racings, since I did the transition from go karts a stock car. So we got a pretty long relation and I'd said that's probably why it's I'm pretty I mean I'm not a hundred percent convince, but I'm pretty sure if Mario and DGM racing weren't truck, I would have probably started in truck. That's that's probably why I have. I wanted that directions because because I because I'm in then Mario was with me in two thousand and seventeen. He was my crew chief full time when when we were on what do we want to Pitt these championships. So kind of made a lot of sense just to go to go, to go with him and try to run up and run full time and nextnity in two thousand and eighteen. All Right, Nice. My second question is a overall this year. What would you say would constitute a successful season? That's a I mean I've said it before. I started a year. I mean I knew it was going to be tough. We finished fourteen last year and points and I know it was going to be really tough to beat that and out because it was really pretty strong effort. And would that with the with this trengker. I mean I think that the field goal even stronger this year. But I feel like we can still go finishing the top fifteen championship. But I feel like what we're really aiming for is like or results or race results. I mean we finished for last year at a roboll. That was her best, best result so far. So we would just want to, we swall, make it better. We sure just want to go run and it's finishing the top three or some somewhere, maybe still a wind that that would be a be a success for for the thirty six two team this year. Yeah, I know you just mentioned it and my last question was about racing in the rain last year at the world where you got your first top five. I was wondering, just knowing your experience racing in the rain at the pint series. I remember seeing a few races at most sport where it's raining. To you almost hope that it rains in a weekend to improve your chances if you sober for racing. Yeah, it depends. I mean every other truck I would have. I want to mind, but I'd said like specially the role will I mean dry or wet. That's that track really fits my driving side. We finished six there, six there to the year before and we have motor issues and I feel like we feel like going back in two thousand and twenty hour. I knew, if you're even if it was going to be dry. We were really aiming for top five and going y'all there to get a strong run. But now for sure I'm like to run. I just like to run in the rain and I just I just think it fits my driving style. Even like is like a robill as a truck, order's like riddle, low grip and you really got to be smooth and really get it back. Your corners up a lot and and I've always done really good there. So I feel like that that's that's pretty much where you got where you got to do in the rain. You just gotta be really smoothing down over drive. So for sure I really enjoy you doing right, even even road America to dece the heard that was a first world course of the year. We we led some labs there work Alman nigger and we were really, really stronger in the rain. So I mean, I really don't mind. It's not it's not the thing I'm most fun to do because of the visiblities. Pretty it's pretty awful in these cars, but for sure if we can run better, I feel like we get we get and running a rain, no doubt. So my question is, as you are one of like the very few Canadian born like coming up to the NASCAR effinity series, how does it really feel representing kind of like representing your whole country as a stock car racer? That's pretty cool for sure, especially that I want to champion him in seventeen. That we made a transition. So it was was really cool to see all the support from Canadians and French Canadians that I'm come from the French part of Canada, but it's pretty special. We get. We got really good support me and Raphael here in Quebec, meaning we got got a pretty good fan base. I feel like I really wish to...

...exfinity series would come back to Montreal, because I'd be that be you for us, we would have some it's I mean it's I feel like Montreal is a really awesome I mean the the race track is fun itself, but I mean I feel like that the atmosphere, rum yetmosphere in the seven or a race drag downtown Montreal, like it's the the emblazement were we're situated. The pretty cool and, I gues said, I feel like the Quebec, the Quebec, the French Canadian and a fan base are pretty or pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, especially like growing up in Canada. Like saying with Nick, we tend to go to a lot of like short tracks. There be just pain painties or just local short tracks. So it's really cool seeing you to make it to the expinity series. For sure. Thanks, man, no problem. You mentioned road racing and sorry, different types of road, road course style tracks. What's what's one track that and we asked this with Andy lettle Andy Lanley last week, so I'm going to ask you this one. What's one track in the world that you really want to run at? That's a good question. Probably don't when Murber ring bed be pretty awesome. Just creer unique track at sex is something completely different ten minute laugh about be part of a probably a pretty cool experience. I think he said that. And what was the other one? WHO said spot? I think that's what he's ad there. We said Bathurst to yeah, yeah, bout, yeah, better. So, yeah, body, definitely my top three for sure. Yeah, those checks are insane. Yeah, I had one more questions. Just a few weeks ago, is about a week or Monthi so we heard about the Chicago Street course and I was just wondering from your pinties experience driving at, you know, Toronto Twitter Viea, I was wondering if there's anything from racing there that you think you can take into there next year and put a good running together. Yeah, for sure. And, like I said, I feel like it's gonna be even tougher with a with a Nascar car, like a nascar up a exfinity or can't be our truck because I mean I like I was talking earlier. I repeat myself, but the tires way different. It's a lot less forgiving. So on a street course would be I'd be pretty tough. It's really bumping. There's a bunch of bunch of stuff going on and you it was diraction. A lot but for sure it's got to be a huge challenge. Like job. I feel like dwarriars is. It's a fun it's a it was. It's always a fun tracker run in a Penny series. But, like Toronto, is really, really tough, probably the toughest track I've ever run in my life. Just just to run there on the edge. It's it's really challenging if it's really tight and there's no place where and there's not a lot of place to pass also. So now for sure. I mean I think it's possible around these NASTCAR cars on a street course, but it's definitely a really big challenge. I'm on the next. So you've we've seen you as one of the strongest word curse racers in the ext finity field these days in recent years and there's a lot of there's even more road courses this year in the schedule. So what road course are most confident for this year on the schedule? Definitely a role I sid here. I don't know that just that track fits my driving style really good. We've had awesome runs. They're even like the first every year we qualified fifth and we were second in the first round. Like a couple thousands off Syndrac, but we lost an axle in the first lap, so I think we were we were two or three labs down and we ended up finished like finishing like tender liven so and the next two years finished sixteen four. So it's really a track where, if it's my driving style, I just I don't know who I mean. I kind of know a little bit why I gu said earlier because I'm I'm all, I'm smooter and I'm on smooth driver and I really back my corners a lot. I feel like you got to let car roll in a corner, but it's definitely attract when where I feel like we got the best shot up at a windows here. Yeah, I said. My second question is that how confident are you for Coda this month? I'm pretty I'm I've never run there, but I'm I've been loggins quite a few laps and I racing it and I've, I had how already already round it before a little bit. I'm I racing. So I mean it's gonna be your challenge. Got Be new for everybody. It's got to be really tough. I feel like it's bunch of really different section, different corners like really fast corners, big and then big breaking zones and really slow corners. So it's going to be a definitely we're going to have to get go there with a with a good car and definitely some really good breaking pooling, because I feel like the brakes are going to be abused. That use quite a bit and it and definitely like right running against guy like lially and in real, real role racers that I've run there a lot. It's going to be it's going to be a big challenge because I know we've always like perform really good and road racing, but I've I've never wrote race anything...

...else in a stock cars or some some people tagging other road racer, but the only thing I've wrote race before we wanted to stock cars were wor carting when I was kids. So well, I've all I've always been a short track racer, but I've always enjoyed road racing part of a NASCAR and just I had another question kind of that had to do with choice, about road course race and you mentioned running near, even leading with guys like Almondinger, Syndrec like guys are really known as World Class Road Races and I was wondering if that gave you any confidence with your team being in a lawer level team, even on ovols, that you can maybe run with the best of the best. Yeah, for sure. It's always a confinian confidence vote booster. For sure. Coming it's been especially, like I was saying, in eighteen under a role will, where we we were like in the top five and ever practice, practice sessions, and we're second in the first round qualifying. So that was that was really huge for us. But now we've definitely come along where. I think too, what a DGM racing we've two thousand and eighteen work through US pretty much the first year and they were I mean they've run I think you're going to be kind of run full time in seventeen, but it was I mean we run two cars and eighteen and that was the first year we were really like or not there for four points and everything, and I think we've came from a from a long way from as assistance. A DGM came in excenity and every year we're we're gaining and gaining a lot in speed and just been a rough start of the year for us, but I feel like our program is a lot better. is even better last year and we just need some and consistency and or at least the speed is there and we just keep building and building on it and we'll get there. Are just so we can we can get it. We can finish wherever we're supposed to finish every week thenstead of finishing ten or fifteen spots behind. So we mentioned. I'm not about road racing, inexfinity and pinties. What's what's one big thing that a lot of people don't know about? Your are coming up through the ranks in racing. That really get. Yeah, like I said, I mean I've I'm more of a short truck race. How I've want a lot of short track races and Light Mael air up more and in Canada, and I've never, I've never won a rope course, a road course race. That's that's crazy. Like because I said earlier, people tag me as a road racer, but I've actually never wanted I've been closed a couple times in the pindy series, but actually never really want to rote road course race, except when I was when I was a kid, when I was going out we're running gold cards. So yeah, that's probably that's probably something people don't really know about. Me because I don't know. People assume that I've been. I've been R racing on road courses throughout they throughout the states and Canada, and I've in in real on gt or GTS here, stuff like that with him that that's really not the case. You know. You know, the only car, the only cars I've I've run on road courses. We were stock cars. So I don't probably different me. Like I said, people would the thing that they bought. They don't know what that as I'm I've got a really a background of them short drag racer or not? Are Racier? Should we just shoot our great and that we always do? Yeah, all reliable, overlable. Try You do it. I did last week. I'm doing it. Okay. So we asked this every week every time I have a guest. So do you have like a funny moment that you've had it in you're in like racing at the track or any that that they could share to us your career funny moment? And that's a good question. Yeah, I try. I'm trying to think about it, but there's a bunch. I mean my teammates, Josh Williams, so he's quite the clown he's always got something on his mind, but I can't tell one right now on double my head. Sorry about that. I would take about it though. Maybe if, if, later on, that it gets to me. Oh, I'll share it with you guys. All right, that's this. Just take us through your racing career a little bit and what's really brought you to we were at today. Yep, just, I guess I got outside a little bit earlier. Just. I run a lot of go like carvings from six, I think, six to eleven. It's really where I developed my competitive, my competitive. I only I complet competitive this in racing and I run a little bit of a four wheelers during a winter on ice racing, and that's that. That was always a thing I was doing during a winner and then when, whenever I started really it, being a little more serious about my racing and stock car, that's when I quit because I broke I broke my leg, I broke my my hand and I broke a couple bones. They're running four wheelers or it's a was a little more extreme, but it's I've always I've always enjoyed it because it was it was it was quite a trill, but I'd say. I think I started running...

...stock cars when I was for fourteen. Fourteen or fifteen, sorry, I started running a provincial series here and in Quebec. It was a truck series and I moved up to the act like model ranks and in two thousand and ten, so when I was around sixteen or seventeen. Yep, around there for a couple of years and we moved out to the pinty series for full time in sixteen. I had been running part time and in the pinty series sce like two thousand and twelve or thirteen, and we're always trying to figure out, figure a deal, trying to get a getther some sponsors to run a drawn full time and we're finally able to do it and in sixteen and we want to cham it team in seventeen and that's when I moved a downside of the the exfinity series. And that's history. That's where that's where I'm I'm at right now and still chasing that Jason at first winning exfinity. Yeah, that first one would be something to see. So was beginning in the racing at such a young age. Rose that your idea, your fascinats racing or does your family have like a history, or even our parents or some like that, like fans of racing? They got you into it? Yeah, my my dad's always been pretty big fannies. Never I mean he's racing on a little bit for fun and some like amateur amateur stuff and really nothing serious. But you just brought me, you just brought me and my brother carding carding track when I was five or six and we went out there and and cart and do some go card and I don't know, but that that like a couple months later we had we both started racing gold cards. So that's pretty much I would started. It was it was involved like he was going to stock car races, like dirt stock car, dirt modified races without with one of his friends and we'd always been around racing a little bit. But that's pretty much where where it started, say, going going to the to the go cart track and having some fun with my family and friends and restaurant rest was the story. started racing it when it whenever look back. I mean I said earlier, I started racing at six or seven and it's been non stops too since then, all my summers. That's that. That's where that's what I do and that's what I'm I do it twenty horse pretty much that. I mean if we we don't, like I said earlier, we don't race her in a winner because that has winner or a little Rofford and down south. But I was racing four wheelers stuff and with some yeah, it's it's been my life's been all about racing since I was six or seven. I had a another question about the two thousand and seventeen pinties. I remember you and Kevin mccaw had a pretty good rivalry go in throughout the year. I was just wondering if you enjoy rivals like that, enjoy having such fierce competition? Yeah, for sure, I mean you should. I mean I'm I've always enjoyed it. I've always been a pretty tough competitor and Kevin's definitely really tough compared to so we we were batting for a championship and the entire year and it went all down to the wire to the last two last a couple races and Yep, I think, Hannaginish, that's pretty much where I sealed the championship. And it were he had a penalty because you retaliated under under the caution after the racing it and the share my shared my car and a half, but you're all the body out off the car. But it yeah, it was a was pretty entertaining. I'd say forty fans, but I was a really good rivalry. I think they're the right. Then the next race was out of wrong sandy stash and I've never seen that place back like that because I'm Kevin and I'm from Quebec. I'm from I'm probably like an hour and a half, two hours from that track, but Kevin leaves like right next to the track and probably a couple minutes from there. So it was a pretty sure the owners of the autogom sander staff were pretty happy because we pack that place pretty good after it. That thing I'd happened in any gainish and we were we were batting for a championship pretty ard. So I was a I think I mean it was better. I'm definitely going to remember it for a long time because I was a was a pretty intense right right Hillary as very fun to watch. Nick I said about the referee there and one question none of us have asked. I'm kind of surprised by that. By all of us. What's up? Who's someone that you really enjoy racing weekend and week out in the expinity sues or just someone you find yourself always around that you're like, all right, this is going to be fun, like let's go. That's a good question. That's pretty good question, I'm saying. And it always depends. I mean I've always had a really good relation with Jeremy Clemens. We've got a little mommy. We Marnesville. We we got to get a little bit and that that kind of a town. I got rough a little bit, but I'd say that's probably Jeremy. I've always I good a relation with him in the pits and garage and we always raise pretty hard but usually pretty pretty clean. But yeah, it's a probably him me. We've always been a we've been around since I got him the series and he's it's got. He's kind of helped me. You. was always, always been, ever, ever a good guy with...

...me, like him, and I said Jeremy, and even my first year Russ, Russ Jests and was always around me and we it was he was out at me a lot to with is getting used to used to it, because I'll really know, I never really run a big tracks. Have about. I think I only round like two races and Nicks in an exfinity before I came full time. So him and Russ were, we're pretty good to me. Not Say no, especially my first year when I when I came in the series in eighteen. That's pretty cool. You don't there's there's a lot of there's a lot of guys that you know say they're like this person or that person, but it's always good to get those stories of off the track. that. Yeah, probably you like being around them. Thanks ucks the way, for coming on. Just tell us where our fans can find you out, like what's your Instagram, your twitter or your facebook and stuff like that. Yep, twitter, twitter. INSTAGRAM is pretty much it's a Alex lobby thirty six and my facebook is my recent pages, Alex'Llbay. So yeah, you can follow me on there. I mean I'm I'll try to be as active as like him, but I'm definitely more active on facebook and all the other platforms. But trying to trying to work on that part for sure. Say I give on all the platforms. Yep, thanks for coming on. Thank you time. Thank you, Darlington. Leave. Maybe you guys thank you. riving on the show was really fun. Yeah, it's good talk to you. Thank you. Yeah, we' don't backs. I'm just going to use my post that I posted the day you're pron a tiny bit outdated. Yeah, I ha, gotta look. Let me, I don't know any likes. Find my favorite. You look, you like favorite, favorite, favor and then go to everyone on them. We'll do least favorite in order again. ha ha ha, cold. I. Who wants to go first? It Chris, you want to start off? Chris Clear isn't ready. This is not right. Right, I want to start it off. I'll started off. So an specific order, because I just can't Jimmy clements throwback to Dale Jarrett. It's a really nice one. I'll put that on top tier. This this might be a little bit of a controversial one, but Ross Chastein's to Jimmy Spencer. I don't know why is it pops out into really nice and number three, I'm going to put a jade Beauford. It was a to mark donahue or something like that. Dan gurnee danger. Yeah, Dan, I keep the idiot. Two Different Road recent people. All Right, yeah, I kid. My third favorite. I'm going to give an honor my mention out of the way. Martin Jur senior strowback on a role mention. I couldn't put myself on it. I'm put a top three. You can't thre I can't lie that much. Eric Jones is throwback to John and dready. Was it? Yes, John and dready, beautiful scheme. I second is, Oh it's Colin Garrett's Hall Twenty Six. It's hot twenty six. I love that. And everyone is jade Buford's hall is. I love that. This second I saw that. It looks so good like the original. It looks so good the original, but I like the throwback, like the throw it looks so good. That's just my point, dude. That that and I'll start and I'll go right along with that. My honorable mention will be byrons throwback, as I found three more that definitely ranked about it. Do Beauford definitely is on mine. I'll put that is third. I love that they were able to get the AAR on the car that was honestly sick. Second will be Josh Barry's throwback to junior, because that car is some mexy like. You can't you can't even deny that. And then the last one is going to be sheldon creeds throwback to Chason Leffler, because that scheme, I like that scheme of lot because it didn't change for years and there's one year in particular where that scheme was for an about that one. Heah, I guess I'll start it off. Um. Third for my least, the best of the worst, I guess you could say for me personally, it's Kyle Larson throwback. It's Oh no, not kylers. I'm an Alex Bowman's because I'm at the Teal in the purple all that just it doesn't work well for me, you know. I just it's a good idea. You know, I like how it's like sentimental to what is his kerchief as himself for gray. Yeah, okay, well, it's sent medal at school and all, but I don't think it looks good. Number two is Justin Haley's throwback throwback. It looks I'll give it. I like it, but it's not a throwback, I would say. And...

...my least favorite throwback is josh very's. I don't like it. I don't I know. I know, I don't believe it. I don't know. It's something about it. It's just it's cool, but I don't see the hype. Like I see why people like it because it's Mr God Dale Junior himself. People love them, but I don't think it looks like good. Going to be fully honest, I haven't seen on track yet, so it could look better in person, but it's currently my leasher. It might be my least favorite. It's definitely up there. I think I've disliked the bowman a little bit more. Right for me. Um, I go so Jeffrey earnhart's patron, the Dale own heart. It just doesn't look good. Does this zero in that kind of fun? It just looks really bad. You just can't pull it off. There's no way. Of course, Justin Haley's throwback we're going to add in there. I know it's number one and number one, but I was number one. Oh yeah, this is going to be Anthony Alle Fredo's throwback. Wow, what throwback? I just doesn't it just doesn't here. I'll pull it over right now. If I run every year, someone doesn't, I'm just off. I'm just doesn't look good in me. I have no interest in it. Everyone does it every year, or some of those at least. Now. Who Does I have her front row? Does that have here? Yea All is changing a driver. The pull on a true x and run the same scheme for just changing a driver. Yeah, yeah, I torton. Speaking of true X, his throwback is on my list of worst because it's throwback four years ago at least. No, no, it's from four years ago. That is not a throwback at that looks nice, though. No, don't. For means. I should have put the I said up, put the steadhouse on throwback on my aking of stand house one. That makes my list because I big brain like that one them. That was a legitimately number one. And for the last one, is Harrison Burton's bullshit excuse for throwback. That doesn't yeah, all that looks so weird. That reminds me of Eric Jones. Is Throwback in two thousand and twenty last year. It's just it's just awful. It's just awful. That's not a throwback and that looks nothing close to what the actual car did. So, oh no, the exfinity sanity has some nice throwbacks, though, to up to for me, honestly, and are Jones is throwback. Eric Jones has no bad schemes this year. Oh, let's start off. How has this season shaped up like? Do you guys like the season more than recent years? Yeah, a hundred percent, dude. Every every different person is winning. We're already at ten different winners and were only eleven races into this. This is like the the last like season this good. Was Two thousand and fourteen. That's a yeah, me like two thousand, two thousand and seventeen as an armor mention to that. II. Two thousand and seventeen was good because there was no bad about it. I think like the yeah, it had like a package. Twenty seven. Yeah, the package was good. There was your like upset winners. Everybody likes to have like once or twice a year. Yeah, I think first times. Yeah, there's a lot of first there's Dylan. There was two thousand and level. Any to Blaney? Yes, and I think that season was actually probably one of the most underrated seasons of yeah, I intender kind of does he his final win? That rivalries, like a chase and stuff like that. Jason rival with every we had we had. Yeah, we had junior retiring and then we had that final lapse at homestead, which was crazy. Playoffs were in saying that year to yeah, like the first DNA listens Laghana missing the playoffs now was funny. That was Hilarious, frownny, and I I really can't like. Obviously there's definitely bad races in two thousand and twenty or two thousand and seventeen, but like, I feel like for the majority most of them were like pretty good, like decentell, like pretty pretty good, because I remember there's quite a lot of overtime finishes are like Green White checkers in two thousand and seventeen. EFACT, remember two thousand and seventeen have that stupid overtimeline. That was that is they took that away. They took that away like midseason, I think. And where the brickyard? After the bricket Arry? Was it after? Because that's when case. Yeah, because because they weren't able, because it wasn't like the back stress ran in the middle of the back stretch and it was like by the computer. So you...

...had to wait to see if they even touched it because like it was like visible to like that. Of course everyone. It was so stupid. In my opinion, I think this season is better than two thousand and twenty. No, doubt already. I think no matter how I fall the season ends, is this season is better than two thousand and twenty. Yeah, probably right now, because there's no true dominant winners, I guess this is probably the best season of the GENSIS era. I still think that's hard. That's hard to say racing wise, because we've had a we've had a few like packages. Yeah, well, there's only been like one or two bad races. I mean we've had it the verse winners, we had diverse words. Two Thousand and fourteen two an amazing pack. Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll see. I'd say that. I'm gonna say I think two thousand and fourteen was kind of a little bit slightly overrate. I think two thousand and fourteen was good, but I also think people are kind of just missing it because nostalgic reasons and just because it was like what Gordon was competing for the championship most of the year. That's what it was. It because it was like the last year that like everyone that we kind of grew up with was actually like on there a seek. Yeah, I think this season is good. I think, I'd say, in my opinion, it's the best. Obviously two thousand and seventeen is always gonna have a special place in me. So I don't think it will. Ever, it will never touch that, but I do think it's the best season I've watched since two thousand and seventeen, no doubt. I think that after that'd be like two thousand and nineteen. Two Thousand and nineteen was criminally underrated. My opinion, was definitely better. Couldn't take that season because they were in that they were in the high down force. Ever, every life, I'm not gonna last most places, Bro I know you can pass. I don't know something that two thousand nineteen was the five. I think it was just two thousand and nineteen as a whole year, not just Naskar. was just good. That's good. Let's we got railed off topic there, yeah, we did. Yeah, we are rating everywhere, rating every other season, but here they so let's here team rate rankings. Okay, let's spend our let's two top teams. Urs Hendrick motorsports. I'm going to give them a B plus. I think I could do it. Yeah, a minus, I think. B Plus because they've been they've been inconsistent, but they've also been really good. They've been that. I'd say seconds Earth. I don't know. I don't know where to rank them because I think they're probably like and pence given better, I'd say still. Well, those three are definitely the top teams. There's no job. Oh yeah, no, Dobat, no dubt about it. Yeah, like it's criminal to rank them outside of the top three. I also don't know how you rank any of them. Will I'd probably put Hendrick third. Yes, I would put Hendrick third, just because two of them are kind of lackluster. With Elliott and Bowman Pen Skiing Gibbs, I don't know. I would I want to give the edge to gibbs because all four of them have been race winning contender. bactor, he was saying. I mean I kind of agree. Yeah, because like look on, no, hasn't really hit her mess from races, but he's fourth and points. Yeah, but he's been really hit her miss because he has been like winning contention, like they get. Gibbs bells been pretty inconsistent. I he wanted. He's been pretty consistent. Like everyone else. Like Bush has been up front, Hamlin's been beyond up front. If it hasn't been when which has been and sure x has been. Stress is the only multiple time winner. So Bush is only been up front for the two races he's being. That a quiet I feel like it's been amazing bug and I'm kind of quiet. Top Ten, top five? I don't know. I feel like you can look at, yeah, Gibbs, all their drivers of met one, Pensky, all their drivers of met one. Well, Pensky also has half of the top six in the standings. Sure, yeah, like they're. I would I would kind of I want to give the edge to Painsky because they're all good, but I want to give the edge to gibbs because they have a one more driver and they're still all being round of eight contenders. I would argue. Think you could argue that. I think Pensky or no doubt all three are round of eight contenders. The only lack luster people are those teams are Pensky, would say. Lagan I was kind of a step behind the others. Two. Yeah, I'd say Lagano's win was kind of not like lucky, but it was. I still don't think he's shown what he can really do this season and, like my championship pick, kind of lack lester. But he's still my championship pick. He's kind of falling off a...

...little bit recently. Now he's not. He's gonna be the championship. Now he's not. I don't know what you're talking all right. So after Hendrick, would you guys take? I would take our CR I three, Austin Dylan. Austin Dylan is a good amount of top ten. Don I wouldn't surprise if like half or more the races this year. He's kind of top ten and D exile Redik has redick has had a lot of bad luck. He's kind of he's got a top. Yeah, he had second home set and they had a tiny top ten streak around like Bristol and Marnsville, I think like that. And of course last week at a top ten. So He's getting yeah, I would say. Yeah, I don't know if you feel would brothers with or just by themselves or what? Yeah, they're all for themselves. They are by themselves, but it hmm, I'd still put them behind our see are. Well, yeah, I would put them behind. I would put I'd put Chefen way ahead of would brothers, just because would brothers got off to an extremely rocky start. Yeah, and then, yeah, and pushers, just like really good busher and human like yeah, Newman. Yeah, nums like a step behind, but like he's he's had a like a really bad like most races, but by the end of the race usually kind of like colleges, like a top twenty, top fifteen. Here's a good do you guys put Jtg or Ganassi above who jtg about ATG because, yeah, because of both drivers of Guggi were in the ploffs one point. Instead House just for lying the playoffs, and that's only because he got shitlock at Kansas. Yeah, yeah, that. Kurts by were really mediocre and then justined was really mediocre, or beast slowly stepping it up, slowly stepping it up, chaff. Same, better than Kurt bus, confirm. Okay. Now move on next orders team to new highlighted teams of this year. Track ASS by MOCHILES, get out of here. Don't. Don't even now. That's not really a debate. My opinion, and I think track house has been I'd say for a new team, I'd give them an a plus. Honestly, they are a new team. They're jumping into this and they're fired right out of the eight. What would you give twenty three eleven? Twenty three eleven gets C plus plus. They have to have this speed, but they can't. They can't finish anything out. Like, okay, Bub was it. Bubble was like top twelve half of the race yesterday, but I mean he almost somehow. But like, they can't finish the races and you finished mid twenty or whatever. Something can always goes wrong when they're doing well. Something always goes wrong and I feel bad, but I mean it's kind of a part of racing. You're going to have unlucky and then you're going to be a lucky sometimes, and they're always pulling the short end of the stick. I think I do expect them to pick it up, but I've also expected them to pick it up quite a bit of races ago. So I'd give them a C plus just because they've been under performing. I think, and this is going to this current, this is going to sound bad to everyone that's going to listen after I think they might be the most overrated debut team in the history of NASCAR. I don't blame it because you know, bubble Wallace, Denny Ug Hamlon getting in a racing, of course MG. So I don't blame the hype, but obviously it was going to be over it. I think we all knew is going to be overrated from the start. I just will the way they talked about it too. That is true. They can expected to the way Jordan talked about it. It's they're like we're here to win now, you're here to get barely top twenties. Calm down. Yeah, Denny's really speaking on a bad day. He's like he's not happy with the finishes, and you kind of he said before Kansas. He's like they need to start getting racist together. I'm finishing races where you got mad at Bobba Talladega because wasn't being a team player. Yeah, Jemmy, and I don't think that necessary. How what's it? One is BUBBA's deal, like, how many years is eyes out? One year? No, I think it was two or three. Okay, well, if it's true through. Yeah, also, I don't know why Denny's talking out of all drivers. Oh, Danny's the least team whis a teammate. It the scuper speedways, either Daytona, summer. Two Thousand and twenty has a chance to push true x and go to victory lay like. Arguably, he could have gone to victory lane, but he decided, you know, let's make it three wide, loser chance to win. Could have helped team. It could have been one too. You know, I would have been fantastic he ignore every like five hundred in recent history to yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just the first one that comes to my mind. I still angers me a final at so for him to say that about BUBBA...

...tires stupid. So I would after actually, I'd say track house or not track those two eleven is currently the worst, not the worst, team in Nascar, but I would say it is. Out of all the teams I would have expected they're the worst because I didn't expect Stuart has to be as bad as they are. I expected them to be not as good as they were, though. I expected Stewart Hoss to be Harvard have like maybe three or four wins, maybe Almerola sneaks away in one, luck lucked one. Maybe custer BRISCO get a fuel mileage or something like that. Tall Ego would I didn't expect them to be this bad, though. I would put them behind twenty three eleven. Yeah, I could. Yeah, you could definitely argue that. I'd give them, I give Stewart Hass racing ass. Honestly. Oh, yeah, honestly, I probably put them. I probably put them. I don't know if I want to put them below petty or not, but it's like put in the blow attie petty. It has been disappointing, I will say that. But I also I think you got to realize most of why they were running so well was because Bubba was bringing in sponsorship and the cars were better. So I mean, I expect them, not but I mean Jones has had some pretty damn good runs. Yeah, I think it was bristol dirt. He ran top ten TALLADEGGA. Could have been three in a row at Talladegga. If you're being completely honest, Spring Twenty, time, Twenty Fall, two thousand and twenty all for twenty. Forgot about that race all. Yeah, we don't need to mention that race. Oh my God, absolutely door slammed by who was it? Anthony Alfredo Casgra, one of the UNTALENTED Brookies? Doesn't matter. I'm joking. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. After that I'd go furniture road inspire, furniture row, front row, front row, front row. Yeah, I was afraid I'm afraid it is really hold them back because like mccalos having like a really good season for their standards, and Alfredo just like Mide S, and they running with the Rick. We're like, it's really bad. I don't blame them, though. I mean, he has bare almost lit none. No, top, not, no town. I didn't mean that. I didn't mean that. I meant no experience, experience. That's what I was going for. I promise you. He has some talent. I hope he's the man like for a hour. His career started on a computer, just trverer tod did I actually yeah, no, I'm not mad. I'm just as boiled. I'm not mad, I'm just we wanted. I think we've gone through every team, so I think I below yellow group is below rick. We're racing, because they're all the same. They're all terrible. One and right, right, James Davis, except for James Davison. Yes, James Davison and breckware racing. That's there. It's then, yeah, James Davis and doesn't count as part of rickware racing because he's actually someone decent compared to the rest of the TAT mare. She's pretty solid. Okay, felly. It doesn't win, next week James Davison should get the ride. He's basically the same. He's a road course racing smoking that chase. Allie back once again. Thank you, Hawa's the way, for joining us on this episode and an answering all of our questions and good luck at Darlington. And Yeah, I mid this for an episode. Thank you for watching and and our listening and like, comment, subscribe, we review, you know, check us out, spotify, youtube, Google podcast, our podcast, stuff like that. All that stuff. and was you after throwback weekend.

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