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Episode 4 From North of the Border to the Twists and Turns of the Daytona Road Course

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

*Originally aired August 18, 2020* This episode showcases everything from ARCA to Cup Series, we also highlight the return of to racing this year of the Pintys Series with a couple friends from Canada!

Welcome to episode four of the Nasser hot spot podcast. We sure unexpected what Kay came into the weekend as unexpected. This past weekend, after all, the three national series plus Arca, went to day tone of road course, of the first time in their history. Pretty special moment. And in NASCAR history doesn't stop there. This episode walks to be going over hot rumors. Interesting topics were lining to the two thousand and twenty, two thousand and twenty one silly season, as well as going up north and looking into the pitty series returned to action this weekend, but sure saw some exciting stuff happen. I'm one of the host Troy Johne, by Chris, which y'all are probably familiar really, and we have two new phases. I have caden and Nick, so I will start this off. So how's everyone doing? I'm fine. I'm doing pretty good. You know, it's just chilling out here right. Yeah, I'm doing pretty solid. Finally, a Daytona, not the most expected way. So yeah, Hey, oh, number, getta going. This is it was definitely definitely some wild show that we saw. Yeah, it it definitely got up to the opportunities for many drivers to get seen. That don't normally don't get seen. So I was good to see and because some great rumors and news on top of all that before the weekend even started. Yeah, some big spongeorship feels that came up in two bubble walls and brand new sports. That is big. It's multi your deals between our Columbia and door, who big names and the wilder am yes, sir, definitely go ahead. I was going to talk about the Ryan priest Rummers, but you can go oh, yeah, no, it's a I mean those rumors are definitely going to be something to note as well. But the bubble sponsorship deals are definitely huge. Considering they vote, they've been needing more sponsorship and with the news previously, throughout the season so far that they've been in talks with multiple, was it smpfive hundred companies, and in terms of stock exchange stuff that we're looking into getting in and there's two of them, along with cash at as, another big one for them. But Yeah, those Ryan Priest rummers are they're interesting so far to hear. Oh, who do you think we'll get the thirty seven? I think I could think that. I we see chas stay, and I mean he's he is a Chevrolet driver. So I mean that's the only real tie there, but other than that I think it'd be a wild card. Like let joy or someone like that. I could see. I could see Haley howting it. It's another you know, Chevrolet College Guy who had a bit more success in this here. I mean I could see a happening. I know Haley's ran some rasons with fire in the past and no spire gives him the opportunity, but you know, maybe if he's available they pick him up. Yeah, definitely. It's definitely a topic I'm thinking. I heard a couple big rumors that would you maybe going thirty seven and moving up comple positions. I guess on track as normal from go faster G tg. Yeah, this I think J Y JTG's probably a little bit better, but like they've been roughly the same this year. So you think a lot of that comes down to equipment, because they're getting JACG's getting their equipment from Hendrick most or they have a technical alliance with them. So but in terms of who I think is going to get there, I've heard the Jory's name a lot. I think that's might be a forsure thing, especially with the situation with how BRISCO is getting a lot better. It seemed this entire season in the xfinity series he's just been dominant, along with Sin Drake in those are two for guys. So who knows where that's going to go, but I think that would be briscoes ride next season, depending on what happens with essay chars silly season and how their free agency goes, depending on who they keeping don't keep. But in terms of pre cipher that, he could go down to the ninety eight car and run Stewart houses exfinity car next season. Yeah, it's definitely pleasenty. Certainly is can go. We still like a solid driver. He can't perform easily and get some wins in coffinity by he's especially this year's you struggle rotten cops. You may either go down take some more notes before yeah, Ryan, yeah, I see priest being maybe like an aliger kind of guy. Like I don't...

...see him having a great top ride car cup, but if he's going to have a good ride anywhere it will be an exfinity and if he does happen to stay in the thirty seven or forty seven or whatever, you and I don't see him contending for wins anytime soon. Yeah, we've seen that. We've seen priest run with JR in the past. You know, the eight car has been shared with a few drivers. I could potentially see him going back there covering most of the season and then, you know Dale wants to come back and do a couple of reasons. You could do a few and maybe get some other guys and that's another opportunity I could see him pursue. Yeah, yeah, that that's probably the most likely option, I'd say, honestly, because they have they both have ties to junior. So yeah, that that eight cars really become a rotating door of guys basically throughout the season. It's been nice to see a couple of from have really good runs and then you know with junior's one race the season that it turned into. It's nicest to see him racing, though. Yeah, always. Yeah. So let's start off with the races this weekend. We started out with Arca. Everyone thought from everyone thought they were going to like RCA is Laski and to turn one, but they didn't and they made it through the first the first corner, and the races move mostly incident. Yeah, it was definitely a it seemed like a very quiet race. I mean it seems like the past couple of arc races in general, it seems just that everyone's been getting better. Besides like maybe one or two incidents throughout the race, but it seems like all the drivers in that series have just gotten better at running their criminals out messing up, and it was definitely good to see them handle the road course the way they did and that, you know, be the meme that is the Arca series that it has been lately. Yeah, I totally fell they were gonna pile up and turn one. I like, let's be honest, arc is probably like Arca is the, I guess, least talented of the four main Naskert series is, and so I think we all kind of just expected them. They were either going to have a boring race or they're all going to die and turn one. So, yeah, we got something kind of in the middle. Tie Gibbs and Michael stuff was definitely the main talking to race. A ballet each other all race from start to finish. And Yeah, and with Michael Sooft coming up on top over yea. How old is tie? Like seven hundred and seventeen. Yeah, he's almost eighteen. Yeah, I definitely say I'm having a future I kids sometime. I mean like it's for sure. I mean with all the negative talk about herbs, that's a car. I can he gives filling next. I wouldn't be surprised. Her hurts is something else, Manna. That's coming from a die hard Toyota fans. I would I would see. I would see gives going to keep em first. I seems to be home to Toyota. Can't wear the trd especially runs there. I could see them through that flatter that like guys like bell and Burton and Ekes is going through. Yeah, I could see. I could see Ke is honestly taking the eighteen if herbs is just does not have a good season. But that's off topic. I think. I think Colin Braun deserves some praise. You know, he came home third after coming in part way through the race. I think he wasn't I mean you kind of knew that he was going to be coming in with me Myers hand injury, but I think it's always hard to come in mid race and do as well. Yeah, definitely had a tough task on his hand. May Do the race with the car that I supposn't set up for an exactly and he didn't have that much experience in like an actual stock or at the broad course. So definitely he definitely disturbs some notice. Yeah, he did have, though, is that you know, he's raised on that track more than I think almost anyone has, the whole weekend with ends, and so I feel like maybe he did have the advantage with the track, with something. It's quite impressive to do what he did. Yeah, we see use of the race breaks. That definitely helped with them in terms of not losing much ground. I mean during the race break they don't lose any ground as long as they can do everything they can in five minutes. So that was definitely impressive to see someone that's has no start car experience at all. I can't remember if he's done any type of stock car racing at all, but now I see him nationwide series. Back in the day, gee don't even know how long ago there would have been. Then I knew like the but have been ten yet? Yeah, nine, ten years ago, so that was a long time. Yes, thre one extremity starts routeen to the seven...

...ten and fifty three truck starts between two and seven and twos and a lot and get a winch for the winner. Michigan Commissian. Wow, wow, that's US Roush Oh, I mean that's truck. That's when a rash was good, like real. Yeah, yeah, I mean we've all seen what Roush's turned into the past seven years, but that's another topic for another day. Yeah, yeah, definitely is. So for a second let's go up to pinchy series, which made their turn to racing for the season. They they definitely showed off, you know. I mean there wasn't a lot of drivers. There's only thirteen in the field, like we're talking about prior to recording, but they definitely showed that short track racing that you know, all the people in the states love to see, and they put it in full effect, especially at the end of that first race. Came down to green, white checkered and the two leaders took themselves out in three and four. One of them was it hathaway, dominated the race, got spun entering three and then I forgot who was driving the seventy four, but he got spun around real quick to and LP. I hope I'm saying the name right, Dumlin. Yeah, so, yeah, he ended up one of the first race due to the you know, race off off side by side, so that was sweet to see that. Catching those highlights. Yeah, I was I really pleased with the race this weekend for the Pinky series because they've been the sun set in the past and, to be honest, they were pretty bad races. We'd have Alex Tag we any dominate the whole time with laughing almost the whole field and I felt like, yeah, you know, maybe Teg we any being at the truck race was part of the equation, but I feel like there's a lot better race than what the tip be produced. Yeah, sunset normally just isn't over all the best racing that I've ever seen. It's pretty it's pretty okay, but like it's nothing that I eat stand up and say yes, let's go to sunset. Yeah, I was a bit disappointed, honestly, to see it back on the schedule. I just think it's a bit small for the pinty series. I don't think that and necessarily lends itself well to a series that large. But I feel like the shortan field probably helped it as well. Oh yeah, I definitely helped. If it was a bigger field, it would have been. It would have been it was, it would have been a clush there. Holy Thirteen cars racing around. That look like it was. Still it doesn't look like it's a very big track at all. Yeah, it's so high. Yeah, I'll fine how big it is. It's pretty small though. Also, traitan laughs of Itch did quite a good job and his yeah, laps of itch. I think he's yeah, he looks good. I think you got the deal done Friday, I think, so, like a day before the races. Fou and drive for Scott Steckley. But yeah, he's he's my age at he's sixteen and he's a he grew up racing at sunset, so I'm not surprised. He really did too well here. But and I explains to impressive to take up on it that quickly. That explains the second or fourth place finish, you know, in both races. Yeah, I remember showing up the sunset a few years ago and laughs, which was like thirteen or fourteen. Then he was contending for the serious Oh yeah, and there in their division. It was pretty impressive. Laps of Itch is I think if he had the money, which I mean he does have some money, but if he actually got a chance at a top maybe even an Arca ride, I think he could do something. Laps of itch is impressive, like really I've been watching him last five years. He's been really good. Yeah, so with Kate and it was I felt so bad that that team had to shut down. Is a family. Yeah, Cadan laughs of Itch is good too. They had they had tim Horton sponsorship through since the dude was racing, and then Tim Horton hold hold themselves from the team and they had to sell their car. So I think last year Caden was doing some late model races in the states, but it's good to see them back because obviously they're very talented family. Yeah, Tradan had to deal lined up with Carrie Mix's team to do a few select obols. I'm not sure that deals still happening now with the shorten season, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see in back maybe in that car for the last four races of the year. I would be interesting. And then from one race to the next the winder. In the first race you had engine troubles. I heard his engine caught on fires. Thirty five laps in which you know that's never good way to go about after you know, grace right before that you won and then has way went dominated the second race again just as nearly just as much as the first,...

...lead in a hundred and one laps this time and just went out and one the thing. Yeah, Jason Hathaway. Yeah, the one of the best over races in the seat and the series that I am glad to see him get a win here. Retired actually at the end of the two thousand and seventeen year. He came back to a couple races in two thousand and eighteen and then came back the whole time last see and I think he got a couple wings, which is good to see. But again another surprising guy on NA podium Connor James. He's only done a few pinty series races in his wife and he came out his car was beat up. I'm not exactly sure that happen. I saw a picture of it, but still managed to finish second with missing a lot of parts from the front of the car. Yeah, I say I saw a picture. That is his whole front end was just completely gone like that. Was Wild to see, but you know short chart rasing right. Yeah. Also, yeah, a one, two four at Hackens in this team. They managed to finish strong last year. We saw Bert Taylor get a win at you as of the end of the year and I think they might be the team to beat this year. I think they're they're one of the only two car fields in the team to cars and yeah, they look like the team to beat so far. Yeah, it'll definitely be impressive to see. I mean especially after watching him dominating on the two races this weekend. Definitely should have been two wins, but he got to do what you got to do, right, I mean go out and win that second one if don't get the first one. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's definitely a comeback. They're then from north of the border. Will head back down south, all the way back down to Daytona and bring up that exfinity race. That had its moments always got. Where do I start? Is Pretty crazy weekend. and Oh yeah, and a lot of we had a lot experience to the field. I'll get a bit of any experience. A lot of road ringers stuff. It was. It was fun to watch, definitely, but I don't he's Austin Syndric. Somehow he just like pre much dominates with course, you the to Ford guys when it comes to road courses, and then you throw an AJ. Everyone know who's most pay there's stuff everyone else. Yeah, I just will go home. Honestly, it's not even a contest when those three shot even think guests. A contest between the three. I think it's a contest between cindric and if centric is going to wreck. Honestly, cyndric is. I don't like the man, but he's definitely a wheel man. He can drive a car, that's for sure gonna say. I Bet Caden's pretty happy that they got most of them coursings out of the way now. Yeah, I think there's a lot one more left. Charlie roll, that's the best one so I mean, I mean that's arguably the best one so far through the role, and then you'll be good. What about centrics? From winning on Novals this year to so, who knows what's gonna Happen? You win, that's nothing. I like the three same thing. Talk badly about her seven. Okay, herb's got lucky by a lot of yeah, oh yeah, herbs hurt, didn't herb spit herb spun like twice, didn't he? Boys? Yeah, I was smiling. Not gonna lie. Daddy's money can only take you so far. Ain't getting a top ten herbs coming on the PODCAST. Sorry, there was never a chance of that happening. If you know dmy what about all three colligue cars having troubles? Oh, I mean don't. Haley was out early, AJ A had a penalty early and Shas stain. Just what even happen? Jeff thinks saw Haley and it's something go wrong. Yeah, all laps behind. It all happen with him like two minutes. I remember it was the same one. They all three, because I remember they showed it. They showed Josh stay and slowing. All Sudden Haley goes flying. He hit something. He hit the curve and I'm like okay, well, there's two out of the three Collie cars gone. That's nice. And then Almon Dinger right after. Yeah, on the Dan got a penalty right after that. Like yeah, well, how do you even manage that? Well, I mean almon danger did bother rebound. We got. Yeah, I mean it was only was it the first stage. We knew allmendinger is...

...going to come back. Yeah, stuff, right. Yeah, Andy Lowley, one of my favorite guys and one of my favorite road closer, is getting a top five by laugh five, dude, that tell Lilly and wresting. Just like if you're just a casual and don't understand racing and you see that top ten, you're like boy, and then anyone else that knows racing there like I can see that. I'm not surprised by that. Brandon, yeah, Brandon Jones, and second maybe go what? Okay, yeah, okay, he ticks advantage of restarts, one of the best in the series. I'll say I restarts. Other than other than like Brisco and Syndric, the main to I'd say Brandon Jones is probably the most likely to go to cub next, maybe other than Harrison Burton as well. I mean what were the rumors of Daddy's money to those? So, yeah, but here he's great reserve, a great racer, but he's got he's got his name. And what about backing? Yeah, but this isn't a sus said and gone situation. He said in the group Chat something about like Daddy hamlet buying Richard Patty motorsports. Was that all me? I was I was reading that all on I was reading all that on Reddit and twitter. There's IT. WANT TO BE Denny. Um, the rumors. With all of that going on, this is way off topic, but we will talk right now. We'll get back to the infinity. So the big rumor that I saw going going around all of twitter and read it the past couple of days, was a Jordan was looking to George. Michael Jordan is the celebrity possible endorsement to Richard Petty motorsports. That would, Oh wow, pin up the second team. Yeah, that would open up the second team tour. Denny would own that car but he would still drive the eleven and Brandon Jones would end up driving that second car. I'd be, oh well, that came off bad. Be One of the most weird things I've ever seen, and ask her. Oh my God, yeah, we're Michael Jordan, like maybe from North Carolina. Yeah, he owns the Charlotte Hornets. So easy sponsorship right there. Just get the Hornetflogos laugh on time cross sports. Yeah, I mean, why not? And then you got but the only the only interesting part of that would be the Jordan Brand and Columbia because, although they don't really go up against each other in terms of any marketing. There are a couple of things. So that'd be the only that'd be the only thing that would make everyone comb hmm. But besides that, knows, that would be the most wild thing to see if Jordan got involved. I know back in Daytona he said he wasn't interested in getting, you know, involved in Nascar in terms of ownership, but maybe those he was saying that if he was to start a team, not join one. Well, with Jordan coming along, like if Jordan were to come a sponsor and all this, which is probably unlikely, I'd say, but would this would be a thing. Would Nike jump on, because I mean Nike is a big sponsor, and if Nike were to jump on the forty three, that would be, oh my God, that would be something else. That'd be a beautiful scheme, one the last, but I'd be a lot of money rolling in right there. I think you would be Jordan brand and not Nike, considering that Denny's fire suit is made by Jordan brand. So yeah, that that's probably what it would end up being. A seat of Nike themselves would be his brand, which is still it's still, you know, basically a Nike brand is just owned by could stead of just themselves. Yeah, but I mean it would be like if you think about, let's say went back, you know, five years in time, you look for that two thousand and twenty and sets one by Michael Jordan employed may whether you imagine hearing those roomor imagine like going, yeah, imagine going back five years from now or five years ago and hearing him five years that Michael Jordan in Floyd me, whether it be getting involved in NASCAR. Yeah, you could say that about a lot of things, like Jimmy Johnson's way is two and a half or three year winless streaking. No one would believe out of the time. No, I mean I don't believe Riley hursts like getting expending your ride. No one. The only one day Riley here's five years ago. No, no one. Besides what we're would his family from what? Off Road Racing? Yeah, that the only way. If you're like I think, I think he does like the truck shut. I don't know what the thing is called when they race dirt on trucks or trucks on dirt. Well, they do like they do all these stadium trucks and then yeah, yeah, I think they do. Bowe comes them.

I think his dad does or something like that. Herbs Stadium Super Rugs. I kind of follow that series because but sheldon creed. Yeah, I will get all Sheldon Creek. Sheldon creed is a beast lately. But we need to we got weight of these things to finish up time. Even dumb want that's no, we're not even half way through that. We got to we'll get back. We got to the beginning of stags to and we're going along and all of a sudden GRAYSON spins from the Lad Oh yeah, it is all right, but that's kind of funny, isn't surprising? He's trying too hard. Yeah, T to a great kink, way too hard. And then just Gregson is a good driver that just makes dumb mistake sometimes, like when he wrecked Alighi or Bristol, like, come on, that's a teammate move. Yeah, the thing is that there's been so much talk about Gregson moving up to cut, but I feel like he's not moving up to go. Yeah, I feel like you can use another year to try to like these mistakes. He needs to be mature. He's good, yeah, but you know, sometimes there's some questionable, questionable situations that you noticed from him that you can maybe work out. Yeah, look, he looks exactly like how, you know, centric his first two years or so he really kind of like he got into a lot of people in a lot of moves. This year he's been a lot better. He's a couple mistakes, but he's been a lot better. Yeah, and maybe we could see that from Gregson next year, for if he does stay, and hopefully he does stay one more year down there. Yeah, I don't see them moving him up to the forty A. I see someone else, but that's off topic. We'll spend twenty minutes on that again, so let just leave after yeah, we'll leave that for now. Man, eventually, one way, one time of the one of these episodes, gonna have to talk about silly season. It's like a hole and then you know, I just been laid on whatever. I dips to be on it. I'm down that. Yeah, that could be a whole what without the seven ago restart where everyone just decided to not make the point totally skips half the race. But I exactly wasn't that when my car racing just like stay down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, cargo pass them by the rest. Yeah, yeah, are they would think would have been. Yeah, Brandon Jones is pop ready. He made it through that. He's insane. He's the best. I'm telling you, Mankay. That's because everyone else in front of him kind of right instead of turning. So it sucks for Bristol. Dude, broad brisk cords such him and Cyndric were class of the field hands down. And then that I've started, BRISCO gets involved in that after I think I'm go ahead. Okay, I think at times BRISCO was better, but I think at times, most of the time, Syndric was definitely better. But if BRISCO got the restart and ended up getting the lead, I think he would have drove away or it would have been close coming to the line, and it just sucks to see a good car tour it out like that. I'm a fan of BRISCO, so it's hard for me not to be upset, but you know, I think he had a great run going for him. It sucks that his car gets torn up, though. Yeah, they definitely both had it seemed like whichever one of those two got out front by enough of mount they were the ones that were said yeah for however, Long, because we saw at the end of Stage two when centric did get to him, he got by him for two corners and then Brisco got back by him. So like, yeah, it just seemed to a track from one was up front was set. Then after that restarted. We had, you know, Brisco getting involved, AJ got involved, a lot of guys, a lot of guys got torn up and spun around and all that. BRISCO ended up parking his car. Aj was able to keep going. So that was good to see, because it's always nice to see Aj Rason the better. What's always nice to see at least one of the three called these cars anything but are. Yeah, even though here ended up spinning all Guyre I mean like purpose. Well, that was that was controversial. I mean he didn't do it on purpose. We all know that. Aj S now that guy. But like, what even happened? Did he just lock up the brakes and get you? You'll have to we have hoped to dream. Just kept going. It was just a racing pretty much raising hard us for ours is faster than Oh yeah, yeah, as got a desperate move, you know, in that corner and yeah, sent a little too hard there. But yeah, I think I...

...think if he could have got to cyndric that he might have had a chance. If he got around them quick enough, I think it would have been definitely a close finish, but I think cyndric was just that much faster than yeah, feel like road America, since you faster. Yeah, that's mistakes. Well, AJ, all right, when chase and center or when chase was still in the race, and you know, we have cyndric up there with them. Aj had a good third place car, so I think at best he would have got I don't think he had anything for Cyndric. Oh, yeah, he didn't have anything for Syndric. No, maybe maybe if it got into another overtime where if gotten to it overtime where he started, he took the lead in turn wide and then just at least stayed in front of them, maybe had something, but I think cindric would have just moved him out of the way. At that point you could have been like I have a fast car, just get out the way, like I didn't classic Syndric Fashion, Cindur. Yeah, I mean it's probably good to bath and I would have been mad if CINDRI movement have been the only one. That would have been like let's just stay quiet now. But no, and then with that we started. After that, centric gets in front, game, set match, you know, same thing. They can hear for the nother one. Now, same thing for the past month. Basically, it's centric and Doris. So tied and wins. Are they both that? They're tied. Yeah, we get. They got to get a starting park card. Just spin cy injured out next week. You like a Kyle Bush requick you to go? No, no, no, no, maybe maybe only didn't meet somehow like wheel hop at Dover and just injury. No, I'm not even going to respond about any. I think we always want. The past six races this man has made his average finish one point six or one point, one point five, one one seven. Oh, yeah, because he does. What if you have four five wins and then one seconds, five out of Les? Yeah, yeah, and then one second place finish. This man, I think right now briscos kind of I'm not saying he's falling off, but he's definitely not where cyndric is right now. He's SYNDERC. He's met his companion. Yeah, he did. Like I think. I think once we, well, I think once cyndric started winning, that we'd start to see the actual championship battle, because I think first twelve race of the season we all knew briscoe was easily the best, but cindric got on this role and I think he might die out and the summer hidden cyndric quick. All right. Well, I mean that this high. I want to be good. Yeah, it might be my birth Goo bias, but I think that. I think that right now these tracks are just favoring syndric more like we're getting Oh yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, how many road course stuff? We had two, three BRISCO in Indian atlas, but well, that was that was cyndric getting pissed at Aj for you know, yeah, them. Yeah, is on our topic. I don't even know how many laps cindric let that race. I think as they start like hitting tracks the second time, we can see guys like Briscoe and Burton kind of making returns. Yeah, I want to say this one again. This week I can go out double header of a gover so that'd be yeah, I'll be we're going to do predictions at the right yeah, okay, I was just second. So move on from excre. Finally, a Sunday afternoon we had a trucks. They all going to be a wild one. Not much except Taglioni, which we thought we just going to the lead and just gone into the sunset. But now, yeah, yeah, we're yeah, I need position. Even last year in Canada we, you know, Teg as so much road course experience, especially at that track. You know, Moffatt was this like his car and the truck. Yeah, it was just so much better. So I felt that we could potentially if there was a car that was so much more dominant, we can see that happen. But I wasn't expecting it to be as tough as it was for the work through. Yeah, it does. I think everyone expected that to be near the level of Ourcausin expectation heading into the weekend and then it didn't really seem like much happened in terms of multi truck incidents or anything. You know that the reason itself...

...wasn't it wasn't bad by default, it just it just didn't have anything to offer. Like I think most people would have rather did watch the DAYTNA. Oh, I personally would have, but you know, not again to that it can't be as good as Canadians. Our notice for parts. Oh yeah, I can't be sated. CTMP is the best track on the scared trust track. Of now, because I'm from hand it already think, buddy. Yeah, that's definitely not the case. Oh No, because I went to all doors don't last year. That was a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun in person. I don't know about TV, but it's a lot of fun in person, although it's over the lad it's cool. It's a cool concept. I just don't think it's the back street and will see cooler with that reason. Yeah, Hey, no, stir a freezing. Yeah, I get you guys are from Canada, but now, when he raises, you're not. Screw reason. What would sat smith blowing the first corner? Dude, was the first corner of the rays. He's just like, all right, controller, disconnect. Yea, he never really recovered from it. Now wasn't like Chase Elliott, two thousand and nineteen row. Will he just stay to the back? He said. Well, my days done well. I mean I feel like. I feel like if he makes that cording, we couldn't see. We could have seen them do quite well. It seems undy set up on point. Oh Yeah, three cars in the top six. I feel like probably could have been up there didn't screw off. First Stage, though, was pretty just black luster. I mean bred MOFFATT. After takes one I was like, yeah, exactly the same of Canada last year. I thought, yeah, it sucks for MOFFAT. He's been ever since he got that championship that one year. I think it was two thousand and eighteen. He just hasn't. He just hasn't had it. He doesn't look like a championship contender. I mean he looks good, but he hasn't been looking like a championship contender. I wanted to see him when but I mean our winner at that race was good too. I mean I'm not complaining. I said I think that's unfair too. He had his moments last year. This year hasn't been good, but last ye still one quite a few races. Yeah, well, you say he's got a championship content contender. Yet he's when you don't factor and wins, he's second in the paints. Oh Really? Yeah, he's been extremely consistent. He just hasn't. He hasn't been had molts in the end. Yeah, he has the speed, but he can't. He hasn't like close the deal yet. Yeah, you can't close, it can't lead like a lot of laps in the reach. Like guys, who's leading the points? Austin Hill? Yeah, yeah, oh great, that's no way. You guys don't like. He's a twenty driver, aren't you? I mean, I don't like terrible herbs and I mean I don't like he'll. He'll just annoys me for some reason. I just don't like them. Yeah, I don't. I lost some respect for him. We acting like a couples in a row last summer. Yeah, yeah, I kind of US think. See, I don't need yeah, I don't hate them, but like, he's definitely not one of my favorites. Always been. Man, he's there. Any guy that. I'm like, oh, that's cool. He's going like yeah, it's kind of one of those just all right, okay, yeah, I mean, you know, next race. No, then, but with the GMS guys, Sheldon Creed takes the second was it second stage? Yeah, yeah, I kiss again, students from the lead and craft and decide what the craft to do. Oh, no, craft and Blues, the Basson's fun. Yeah, yeah, so cree took advantage of that. I guess has been so good too. It's just oh my God, he needs to leave the yeah, he I. I probably pick him to wind over now because of any stats or anything, just because he needs to win. Yeah, I think he'll definitely be there. It'll be up to hats, for sure. You'll definitely be in there. I mean all the like top guys will be in contention because the trucks, the top guys don't really separate themselves from each other. They're all kind of right there. Yeah, in terms of points as well, they're all like really, there's no clear favor for the championship. Can't Oh no, not at all. The only reason that happens because Kyle Bush comes in like five versus year, and this wins the mall. I feel like if we saw, I guess if there has done anything really one what one race? Okay, that's true, and I got disqualified, didn't it? Now? No, that was a cloudy racy. Yeah,...

...we see a point be closer, because there is a really room for someone to dominate, especially like way back in the day when you had Harvard and Bush. He was like, Oh yeah, very hard for the trouper years to get that. Their playoff is extremely all right, it's tight, but it opened up a bit, but after a crouse blowing an engine, have a couple of states and go and have an alternated issues and then anchorm had getting a top five. Actually she got six. Still had a big point stay. It's closed it up a lot incomes five points. Time has got two points over crows. It's close every position. Yeah, it's definitely it's going to be exciting piece next couple of weeks because you have nearly for short checks, but Darlington and it's the length of one but it really doesn't race like one at all. Then I have no practice. So either way it's going to be a like every set's definitely going to be hard. Oh yeah, it's. So they got for short tracks basically, and then they're going to Bristol for the first round of their playoff, our first race of their playoffs. So that's going to be that's gonna be five races in a road to watch from them, because rist birstals always a good race. o The trick series race all my gods. Great. Well then they're going to richmond for the first time. Oh I love Richmond. Drive the first time, first time ever Richmond, or has it been x money years? I think it's been many years. I think it's been. I think if they raised it two thousand and one, it was. It was definitely been. It was early two thousand, late night s yeah, let's check it. Last thing they raced to two thousand five. Wow, long ago. Yeah, that'll be. That's going to be. That's fifteen years races that. It's going to be great to see them doing that. But in terms of the end of the truck race, sheldom creed get in the way. I mean back to back. I'm not saying he's not a bad driver, but I mean I think he's I think he's really good. I just don't seem as a championship full long contender y now I think there are many guys. I think they're just drives who have been better than them consistently. Like gives an Smith MOFFAT. He'll Rhodes Echis, who are all ahead of him on points, even though eck this, rohads and Mosta don't even have any wins, and Zane Smith and he'll have only one win. So yeah, it's Huh. A fleet provides that fact of what can happen verse but will happen. It's a play also see what happens that they even happen. Yeah, I think cree after the first round, is probably going to need to win to get past that. Yeah, I can see. Yeah, points to the dough the first round. After that, yeah, I'll have to win or someone have to like have like be bad races, like blown out. Also, I'd like to point out, just because me and here, Raphael. So I'm sorry. Yeah, Sir finally showed up this year, damning their teeth and lay. Yeah, he is young, but I mean it's a Toyo. Don't try one race. He's in a KBM choking. How many years to import time. You don't even part time for them. Last year he ran better in part time and he did all time this year. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, you know, D g across the last year and wonder if that might be a better fit for I don't think Kab. I'm going to dump them, but I think, but I mean they probably will. It's Kab. Yeah, kind, yeah, I'll bring probably a part bring of tie gibbs because he be eighteen. So yeah, I mean it all depends on like we're episodes of a potential moves up. I don't see it happening, but you never know. I just want to point out some drivers that are below the cut line and points and truxis behold. Totally. You totally just brought out your Canadian when you set out just now. Like, what about? Yeah, what about Johnny Saturn Fourteen and Stewart freezing and fifteen, the year they're having. Well, it is even happy. Obviously been bad. The US have the factor in the qualification, but obviously heard.

Yeah, but even do it. The reasons he's freezing straight bad. I mean, yeah, I feel like most, most of these things aren't like crashes. It's always being like mechanical issues. Yeah, his fall or whatever. I wanted him to win the truck sis championship last year. That would have been sweet. And so he's we saw hallew system can be broken. But no, I think a lot of it has been freezings team getting used to running Toyota equipment. Just didn't he runs Chevy last year and previous year. Yeah, Oh, yeah, they've been running shavy and they decide to switch to you to the second she got she they affiliating team with kb ever. No, I don't. I don't know. I think so. I think I remember hearing that. Yeah, I think I remember hearing them that they got like a small line. I don't think it's like Joe Gibbs furniture rop kind of thing, but it's more like a Joe Gibbs lavine kind of thing. Yeah, I mean, I didn't work out. I don't want for the yeah, that's not even taking all the reasons. When he would anyway, UM, she re move on to the cup O or like. That's probably the yeah, idea everything. I thought, well, I I want to talk about this. What about J G are dominating the first stage? Wow, that was that was something. I love to see it. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna get back down to reality real quick. I just want to add. Everyone was like, oh, everything by experience and everything. Um, it's surely I don't think I meant a lot in the end. After we start to be Johnson and McDowell. I've great run. So they've both run it and but like Chase Ellie never stepped foot on that track, but then he just ended handling. He probably never step for my track and so I don't think you did. Let a lot of the race. Well, I mean I don't like I'd say like four out of every five guys haven't been on the track like a he's deal that he hadn't. I was thinking what Kyle Bush went on it for the twenty four hours, but he's one of the only guys I actually had. Yeah, yeah, might have, but yeah, he has. He's not going to come. He's not going to compete for winning. I can't evemember. He is run spire rick wear what what he was work? Haven't pulled on require. Okay, yeah, I say. And then Kyle got hyped up way too much, like I mean he ran, he ran good at first and then he had two problems happen and I don't know why they hyped him up so much, man, I mean it's two thousand and twenty. He wasn't. He was bound not to have a good race, no matter what. No matter I will experience. He is at the track. I just don't think he would have got it. I mean I do track. No practice. The experience still probably what it like. I'm done. I mean I'm luck he's had this. I like how Bush, but I'm saying I think practice really hurts him, like a really hurt him, and Adams Stevens. It just you see, if they have a bad qualifying they just changed the car, but with no qualifying, no practice, they just go in blindside it. And we saw a Michigan where he had a good run. But other than skin and Kansas, I can remember the last time we mentioned Kyle Bush being a threatened a race. You wasn't he led what five laps at Bristol earlier? So a hundred or something like? Oh, quite a few, ever, yeah, yeah, Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. A state, Kansas. Yeah, age point. I think if kyle was as a round of sixteen at like last year, Bro, he's done. He playoff points. Aren't saying him this time playoff points. Last year you would it passed around a sixteen. He didn't deserve to make it there, for Martin Tris Jr would have won the championship, but anyway, chess would have also not stop. Now Joey Lagano would have made the championship. Yeah, Joey would have been I swear if he won the championship. Believe me, I was mad twenty eighteen. I mean, okay, if he did, if he did me the chip chip eighty, he would have been a focus slump luke. Maybe he would have this slump that card this year so this doesn't make it ask bad, noct not every year joey does the...

...same exact thing. Yeah, he went to two to three races a year, two races early on and they're probably either Vegas, dagger or Michigan Races. And then he's not existent. I mean he's good through the rest of the season, but he's not competing for wins. And then all the sudden, speak just shows up in the room to get this here. Yeah, and then he shows up in the playoffs, not the round of sixteen, not in the round at twelve, but in the round of Eight, and it's either he gets enter dout. He doesn't get in. I'll be like right there at the line. Two Thousand and fifteen was a good year for him. Holy I forgot about that. Sweat the yeah, all races at the run of twelve. Was it? CHARLOTTE, Kansas and Talladega, three most controversial races the whole season? Yeah, it's in Talladega. On this how do you get two thousand and fifteen? Much fucking well. And then he made yeah, Oh, I love my Sol that's one of my favorite that was one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen in racing brought it onto himself. Yeah, that would brought it on to himself. That's horrible, fell but imagine to pick Murray would have bumped you corner and the way you I win. I was screaming for mcmurray to win. Mcmurray was like my second favorite at the time. Oh, I love hives. Mcmurray, I would have been so he said he's an interview last year. They like he wanted like back up and try to like bump corny the way. Three, four. It wasn't close enough. If you've ruined the whole entire planet and just o Jeff Gorn on the way, broke Gordon fans life apart. Oh my God. Yeah, but I mean the twelve mcmurray fans would be happy. An amazing young there's one of them. Yeah, that's just one of those things that like Allen right into that happen. If Mc Murray does that, he would have got so much hay it would not even be found. Like everyone would have been confused as hell because no one expects that from him. Yeah, I mean he wasn't terrible ever at Martins will. He was never a contender Martins will. He always started well, I feel like Um, and then he just really finish it off. I've watched grace's. Were like she starts like top five and then he just fades. Oh Yeah, that's the MC Murray. That's what you do. You'd start up from Babe Murray's crutching like all these means Mary and William, Byronwy Hacking, who's not clutching a window shore. You have to be cla but like yeah, believe you. FIRN number needs them. I mean people are trying to compare him to chase Elliott kylers. I'm like, at least to tell you chase elly was a championship contender two thousand and sixty, two thousand and seventeen. He wasn't bad at two thousand and sixteen. That was his rookie year. Technically, yes, he's going to, but he made it. I'm might. Yeah, he made up, and then you know your boy Danny. Yeah, definitely hold F's Dennis again. I forgived any now because I don't like chase Elliott anymore. I'M gonna go back to the Viron thing. I was thinking would have this would be out of nowhere, but Byron to the thirty seven. But the Hendrick allies honestly like wow, I haven't thought of it. About that. Wow, because then Hendrik could downsize to a three car team, put Jones in the twenty four or whatever, nowver they're gonna put it as, and then they don't have to worry about sponsorship for the final car. And I mean Byron has five top five, six top fives in his ninety nine, a hundred races he's raised in. He's had six poles. Yeah, he's had six poles, but I'm pretty sure in all hit, all those runs, he's finished outside the top fifteen. You take his first sex amount of races, or however many's ran right now, and you put them up against chases first and I'm out. It's not even one position. It's not even I don't know why people think they can compare the two. Well, I mean I think people just get high five. Ninety five starts into my own hold my second to fourth sif well, I mean, who could you compare them to? Realistically? I feel like you could parents to a cry. Yeah, I mean I think sores had potential still. I just think he was rushed into cup and then could never just handle it at the time. With pretty bad teams. I guess that crew chaps. Yeah, who was his grouching? Was it Chris Gail the season? Was it Chris Gale? I looked that up because if it was, that makes a lot of sense. Just saying I mean I think Swarz has an underrated season. Obviously he's not going to be, Oh yeah, competing for wins with gone brothers, but I think he's done solid for he and above he's...

...finished above where he started almost every race. I'm pretty sure he's like he has. He has only not completed. What is that? Vegas, isn't it? Because Vegas had the see finished. He's finished. He didn't get finished every race. He's finished every race that he's been in the season. He has only not completed of races he's participated in. What is that? Fifty, fifty six, hundred, fifty six laps of the entire season. They should be the DAYKONA, five hundred, I guess. Well, he didn't make out the count. He's not even he wasn't in it. So but still, that is a hell of a stat to have with what team he is running for and where's he in points? Twenty eight better than he should be. I'll pull it UM. He is thirty one and points. Is he had a Bryan breath. He has a Jo. He is. He's twenty one back. Twenty one back, he's ahead of fool. How how bears in this weekend? How just passed larks in this weekend? Oh my God, he did it. It's it's only because Blaney and Kauzlowski wrecked at Michigan. If that didn't happen, he would not have passed him. All Right, for y than Matt Kins is getting beat by ty down importants. I don't want him. Okay, why are you not some on that? Because I've been kind of on the time like a I don't think. I don't think everyone expected Matt Kinz at the win. I mean, if you expect a Matkins at the win and a new package in a new car that he's never been in with a new crew chief, we using Larsan set up. I mean, yeah, that's they're complete opposite drivers. Exactly. Likes running up the wall and running a hundred percent and kinds of likes taking care of his equipment. So when you put Larsen set up with Magnus if and he's got he's gonna not gonna run good. No, it's a it was the crew chief fault and is make sure of both. Honestly, I mean Chad Johnson wasn't the bast crew chief in the girls, but he wasn't terrible. He's not a Chris Gail, who's the worst crew chief in the garage. I Hate Chris Las Worez then curs. You know, it's got greaves start. Graham's currently true chiefs train. Yeah, her new man. Oh, yeah, yeah, any he actually crewchi swore, isn't Bush, due to the expinish championships. Oh Wow, probably why they brought him. Yeah, because you really works. You can try it. Just just rush now. Is is mean thing. Yeah, it's tours worth to get another ride. I think he, I mean I'm not saying it would contend for wins every week, but he'd be actually not bad. I should see maybe like a Casey can kind of queer. Sorry to compare him to like Kane or something, but like this respectful I don't even know, like like I'm not saying he'll have like an equal career to came, but be like a playoff contender most series. He be a worry more than yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, that makes probably more sense, but I mean I don't see him having a terrible career in the end if he can get a good ride. Oh Yeah, if you can get something that gives them like some type of speed. I mean, all right, okay, hang on, you gotta Finish Daytona and then we'll get to what I was going to say, because it really are to an extreme alone crazy. Yeah, this has been a good one. It is probably my fault for getting all this is probably my mom's a good thing. Yeah, so then is created stuff Harvark, Harvard having the worst possible day and it's still finishing event. Teeth Thou. That's some hard it's because he was running a special scheme. That's what it was, I'm telling you. I mean, given bad luck, he's still got a decent I mean, if we're talking about Harvard scenes, we must talk about the darling. Oh my God, as a darling can throwback, it's not good, but as a rob as a scheme, oh my God, it's you, dude. His throw back is amazing. What I think? I think it's my second favorite. I think it's my second favorite behind the my clanet or areo throwback. That's nice. All right. Well, that's two different series. But yeahs, so those two. Yeah, if we're talking to her about series and it's I called the Michael, and that one before is announced, I said that you did it, you did I'm like no way, it's going to be the Oreo. And then all the sides they say Oreo scheme. I'm like, Oh, well, you know, yeah, that's nice. YEA while we're talking those pay schemes, I think the whoever makes the scheme from Bush too lives a rai like every single one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, even though like...

...ones that were meant to be a joke, like the generation, like Gen Z, and all the ones the millennium, pretty awesome, are yeah, yeah, I think the millennial one was the pink one. It's it was a meme, but I think it actually didn't look terrible. It Jena hats. Jena actually looked one of my favorite schemes of last season, behind every true x scheme. But I that's in the guy making that bet. Yeah, and then what skis does he have this here? He had the corn one, which is beautiful. He had this one that he ran. He's Indie. PATREONIC was amazing. To his indie Patriot. How is nice? Girl is actually pretty sweet. Let's see. or I was everybody polk and I wants to cool. Yeah, yeah, but they also had one I was I was at work two days later and Anheuser Bush rep comes in that takes the order for everything. So I was like, Hey, you see a bushlight applecar swept the weekend at Michigan and he was like, whered, I can't say in this and I was like Yep, and he was like that's gonna be hard to get out two stores now. I'm like good luck. Yeah, he's had some amazing schemes. Even last year he had the ducks of lemonade, which was beautiful. Yeah, the Harvard Beer Scheme, which was it was it was a nice twist. I that. I didn't mind it. Yeah, the new hand card can. Yeah, yeah, Cardo can, which was nice. Card can, that was sweet. L Use. That his clash car this season, which was nice. Yeah, tag pit for Bushes, he pit for Bush yet and then last season at New Hampshire he had the big buck or whatever it's called. Yeah, is big buck. Was Darlington his big but big luckily darling. That was nice to right. Yeah, so ducks, some limited was Texas. I thought it just both. Okay, we got to be I'll find said so many schemes. He's had so many great schemes, though. It's kind of New Hampshire. Yeah, my friend and I were talking about this. Weird we're like, has harvard actually ever had a bad scheme? Like we're going through the show pens are one. I'm a bit tired of, but it's not a bad school. But then we're thinking, like Jimmy John's is a bit playing, but I like the mobile one or not more one? Sir? Well, that was fine, but bud wiser, I like that one. Outback, stink I was. I was another cool one. Loudom was the National Force and national forest. Yeah, yeah, they were pretty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and ducks. I was a beautiful Sam also, like is a mobile one. Black Scheme. That's nice. Brothers scheme is slick. His Tom probably not once this season. Yeah, I think there's no. It's been no bristol to Jimmy. Jimmy Johns was the one that Jim John's was only on hold back a lot. Yeah, Jimmy Johns is nice to you see, he doesn't have any bad schemes. Dude, I honestly say his worst scheme two thousand and eighteen. I was more of a fan of two thousand and seventeen, one two and eighteen th because, like his two thousand and eighteen was that was bad. I didn't like the Bushlights, I did. I didn't like the bushlight scheme. They're too late for me, like, I just it was a bunch of shade the blue. It's because it's the design of the yeah, like, yeah, basically, take the cans design and put it on. I will add the paint schemes. I didn't like this. Here were the ones with the people's faces on it. Obviously it's a cool promotion, but like I had a kind of ruin the paint. Well, yeah, that's kind of like no one expected that to be an amazing scheme. Yeah, I'd say probably his worst, like skimary. Yeah, worst primary. It's probably two thousand and eighteen. FREAKY fast for I didn't like that. No, volls, I didn't like he has like a bad penzil scheme that he ran like a couple of times or something like that, like you would run it a couple of times a season. I'm probably what about his outback steakhouse schemes. Those schemes were nice to they were nice, honestly say. Those were probably like lower tier, though, compared to like recent years. The doll. Yeah, the blue, Bloo and black. Yeah, I think the only one I probably haven't liked was when he was a nation wide and got sponsible by a text drawn. Oh Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, but in terms of copies, always had like yeah, rate schemes. Oh Yeah, should we talk about the Robo now that it's we gotta finish. We gotta finish it were. Yeah, I wants to talk about les. Yeah, I want to talk about it too. Che Kyle gets up the second before is before his breaks die on them, and so he comes to hit road...

...and stuff like that, and chase gaps to field later by like it was like ten seconds after it stops. Are Coming to the end, and then Kyle after come back. Guys like six or laps down around there and this briggs fail again, or it was entire something and blow right were. I think he blew a rass. Something happened. Yeah, in the end Kyle just crash on the race and it's into for an overtime. I think it was over time. So it's like three to go for to go. I think it end up beings three to go. Yeah, they really loud. Yeah, in all it went so slow for me that, even though I don't think I breathe the last like laughs. But yeah, chase, chase held off Denny Day, whoa like breaking late in the corners, and that's who he wouldn't get the change. But like chase, an other drive off some like that, and then I think given Denny Hamlon one more lab, I think Hamlo would have got him. Halo is right there heading in a turn one, slam down. Hamlin was chasing him, Hamlin was Hamlin was on his back. Cofert if Hamlin, if amble, if we all know a family, had the chance, oh, he would have moved in and it would have been entered one, two and then he way to just drive away. It was. It was kind of an anti climactic finish. The race was so hyped up for it to be was I did. It wasn't Shas. I think the racing as a whole for the weekend was honestly pretty solid and we just everyone just hiped it up too much. They expected. Yeah, I mean, what can you do? All the can you do? Have Too much fun watching? Yeah, it was. It was like, I mean, what do you expect? Like we didn't know what he's like. I mean, what do you expect? I mean we had the two thousand and eighteen, which was the introduction of the Charlotte Rovo, which was one of the best races of the decade, and I are a people really compared it to that, which Prov the which, yeah, not see you on it was going to be the same, the same way out. Yeah, it's it's you need to have more finesse and skill. I feel like with this track, even though the corners might not be as technical as the Rovol but with how flat and how the Florida Air messes up just about everything this time of the year, it takes a lot more out of the driver being a good driver than it does anything else we're racing at all. It really showcase how well the stock card drivers and Nascar Stock Car drivers, compared to you know, Imsea and all of them, can really do on a road course like that. I think overall the race was it wasn't bad, but I would say didn't meet expectations. Yeah, I would say, if I'd use one word, I'd say underwhelming. I was expected. Yeah, underwhelming. A lot was was expected. I kind of start coming because, like they did, to a road course in general doesn't have many passing zoones. It has plenty of passings out. I don't know where it's all. Did you canes, but like you go into like the infield section, there's not. There's not many like the little bit of like the the kink in it. Yeah, yeah, you don't turn into the is. He can't really like past that much. You kind of like gotta get a run off to it a pass, I mean, unless you had the best feel. I feel like we saw a lot of people getting that past set up there and then we saw him making us throughout the oval terms. Yeah, so I think that's all about executing. Unless you had the best car, like syndric did or like Elliott or hambling did, I don't think the Enfield was a path in place for you, because we saw cyndric pass it left and right on when he was not leading, he was passing left and right throughout the endfield. He could pass anywhere. He was just that good. But if you didn't have a fast car, you weren't passing anyone on the Infield. That's just out was. Yeah, then, you know, aside from chase putting on a road course clinic again, we saw at the end. See you didn't see it on the cameras because and BC's coverage. But Anyway, entering turn one final that Joey went for a hole that wasn't there. But boming could have gave a slight bit more room. Yeah, but Bowman was already I think Ballo was already even yeah, not away. Yeah, yeah, it was a desperate woman was already going to the past and he was to the inside of Bubba, and that's why I don't think it's Bowman's fault. I don't know. I do not like Lugano, but like even I'm saying, like it was clearly more lagano's fault. It was probably...

...like seventy thirty for each maybe eight two thousand and eighty filly on a twenty four Bowman. Bowman could have left more room, but I don't think he expected leg on or to send it right into the corner. So I mean, if you see it's racing, you should expect something. Yeah, he's some wins. Yeah, I just think the way, the way he did, it just wasn't he just hit the pick comb box. Yeah, yeah, over, something like that. Thanks for bubble walls. Two, eight, twenty eight. Dude, that's three top tens in a row, because I know Michigan one he finished top ten. Did he finish top ten in Michigan? To No, he drove these not. No, because he had a restart to redrop back from it. Yeah, I think you've finished like eleven or twelve or something. Oh my God, he's she's just for top tenses, but no BUBBAS building momentum. He's just gotta have that luck go his way, because that team, that team as a whole, is turning it around, which would be quite love. Hitting Richard Patty Motor switch to Turner on, like it's just like the the greatest no scar driver of all time. He's not, but get into that topic. Yeah, but like, but like the king, as they call him, to have a terrible race team just doesn't make any sense. And it's so twenty years, so twenty five years. Yeah, even after years, cough, when they had, when they had the Bonnie and in dready, even the Bonnie, they could they could actually have a top fifteen runs easily. Yeah, Um, but like now it's like they're sobering top t s and it's like that's even like was kind of radar. And I mean now they're celebrating top ten. So get they're going their own places. been a huge step in the right direction. Way. See Twenty one and points. Fun fact, all rookies are in the top twenty and points. So that's the final not how not pull like no, three, three, name I'm talking about the three main or Keis, Bett, custod, okay and Freddi. Yeah, I brewd that wrong, but I mean bell top twenty in points. He's been doing recently, really good. She's a lot better. Besides, yeah, besides, like spinning. Hardly can at the CON. Yeah, we KS GARLA. Oh my God, what a great run. Yeah, for Real. First Start Out, he goes out of finishes seven and it was no fool. Is Running fifteen always, and then he takes advantage of the restart. I'm not saying get this man a full time cup right, but I'm saying get this man a road course ringer kind of ride for our CR course. Get him get out. Yeah, that's yes. Yeah, yeah, I think, I think people are jumping the gun. I was seeing a lot of comments on twitter under rcrs post built expanding to a three car team. I don't think they're quite I don't think. Oh No, they're not ready for that. He's not ready for that. But if he could do something like Bas said, run certain road courses, then I've been bad. Be Cool. He's all saw almost win in Canada, for I'm still yeah about that, but I mean I hated se seventeen. Yeah, seventeen, because that's your churchs won the championship. Oh my God, that's such a great year. I wish we could go back to two thousand and seventeen. I'm rather new, but we're talking about treks. How many third? Five, I'm sinking people. Five consistent. Are People are under estimating him. Yes, he doesn't have coal peryer it anymore, but he's finished third five times in a row at different tracks. Michigan, Kansas, lean different. I'm yeah, to have more than one win. So under yeah, but people just haven't been talking. Everyone talks about Denny Hamlin and brack is Lasky, and I mean in Kevin are for good reason. I mean they've been the best to at least because I ski's been in cont kind of inconsistent, but because I ski's still the Third Guy, I think. Yeah, because last he's the third guy. But I think if you're picking a fourth guy as of now, true x has probably the best or is the most consistent, at least I'd say as of now, I'd take trecks. I think in the playoffs, if I had to pick a fourth, I'd probably take Blainey. Yeah, I mean I think the championship for will wound up something like Harvey, Hamlin, Blaney, true X, or Blaney because Laski, because Lowski, true rex, something like that. I'm see gonna. I don't...

...sing that for right now. He's kind of snow his luck. Look, he's complete garbage. I could be no pulling off another final four. I don't see Lagana pulling on the be well, I mean, I don't think this. Every year he disappears in the summer and comes back. Yeah, I don't see to sell it. He has, I. One win. He has his two wins at Charlotte and the Daytona road course, obviously, but I mean he's been he's been pretty good. He led laps in Michigan. He almost won that race, but it's the sketchy's olivers him, but at the same time I think sometimes she's Elliott. Yeah, I mean he's he's kind of like a bowman. He's either running top five the whole race or he's running you can get it's at the top right there. You. Yeah, I think tear them, but like in terms of like not like not in terms of finishing results, but in terms of like consistency, and not even that, but like just comparing them. Bowman is either running top five or he's outside the top twenty, which is weird. He's like sixteen and points without his win. Then Chase Elliott, I feel like he's I'm pretty sure he's outside of sixteen and points. He's he's got at the top ten. Twelve, he's twelve. Okay, well, yeah, he's gonna say. Yeah, I just was but to freak out for a second. Yeah, I knew this man drop this far. But Chase Elliot is either running inside the top five or rights at the top ten. He the past couple weeks she's been running top five all rays. Oh yeah, and then something happens where he just falls out bad we start to something like that and just falls out of the top tenny finagures like twelve, thirteen. Yeah, he's like kind of wishing the season. He falls on stage points but he can't get the finishes. Yawn, he needs. Yeah, IF WE PHOENIX WE'RE gonna see a very stressful dry chase makes it to the final for Troy. Be Stress He's gonna be. I thought makes it. No, I think if chase makes it to the file for I think that could. I've never said this before. I think I know. I think I see him as the championship, like I legitimately do. I Harvey hasn't been that good at Phoenix recently. I mean he's been good, but he hasn't been Kevin rbic dominant. I think she's was like a ten better than her because, yeah, in the Season Phoenix Danny Hal's just has to watch out for Bowman and Reddick to ruin a ruin his show. If, I mean he makes it to Phoenix, Denny Hamlon, he is just anny Hamlon. So I mean we all figure he's gonna get a change for he's going to make it to the final four and then something dump's gonna have. Yeah, yeah, gonna be like feel to be like it's not gonna be. It's I think that's gonna be like twenty, nineteen and two thousand and eighteen. The dominant people in the whole season are just not going to win. I don't see Harvard winning it and I don't see Hammon winning it this season. I think it'll be one of the other two, whether it because Lawski somehow, blaney, Elliott, truex, Lugano, whoever else you if it comes down the Danny and chase at the end of the Phoenix first, it's going to be pretty interesting. Eleven. That's all I'M gonna say. That's all I'm gonna set back the twenty four, the great moment for the sport. Oh yeah, it's amazing. But besides the future, speaking of the future and all that fun stuff, we've gotten some news from Nascar itself about cold custer going ottest and the next Gen Card Dover, and with that a few things that have been noted as of late. That hasn't gotten a lot of attention. We have only tested young drivers. Yeah, I've noticed that. Exhaust Dylan, he can't do yeah, and then Lagana. I'm pretty sure they has Lugano, but you like what thirty two, thirty three I think. I think you recently turned thirty. He's yeah, he's still young. Young, you remember came into the it's more. Yeah, he was the youngest winner. Yeah, he was nineteen when he came into is he still the youngest winner in the sport history? Yeah, no, he's still they know, look on, still young. He Yeah, but uh, with that news of that happening, there are a few things that were released about the car. In terms of the chassis, they're all going to be made the same. So Rick where cars are going to have the same joke gime as Joe Gibbs and Pensky and all of them. There's going to be a six speed sequential transmission. So like with the Australian va cars, the way they're shifters,...

...it's all like you keep like going like that, basically, where you keep like, you know, Joeling it down or Joeling it up to change the gear and all that. Instead, I'll be interesting. And then a German tire, not tire, my bad wheel manufacture by BBS. A lot of people in terms of when it comes to customizing their cars and such, know them. They're the ones that are making those single nut wheels for the cars in the Cup series. So be interesting to see that. How yeah, everything's coming together. I think people are going to take this weirdly, but I don't. I even with them all being built on the same chassis, it's not going to make that big of a difference. It'll it's going to save money for a lot of teams. But like we're not going to see rick were racing competing for wins every week. No, yeah, it's just it sucks for the younger, smaller teams to just have no chance against the bigger teams. But I mean we saw furniture row racing went from a small team to a championship team. See with leavine family racing. So I mean anything can happen. But I mean unless Joe Gibbs decides to pick up another small team, it's just the bullyings water earlier. Oh, yeah, that is true. With Floyd Mayweather, whoever was Jordan? You would Michael Jord Yeah, sure, yeah, no, that that's possibility. I could see it happening, but like, no, I don't. Yeah, but uh, with that we do play. We gotta do. Let's get some pain. We do. He's gonna okay, wait, wait, wait, I've a way are we doing picks for both races because it's double header? Yeah, yeah, okay. Are we going to do underdog picks or just race one? Big, I just do who's gonna Struggle and WHO's gonna win? Okay, Chris, you start, all right. So who do I think is gonna Struggle this weekend? I'm going to go to the obvious one and pick kyle both races, because it's Kyle Bush in two thousand and twenty. And then who do I think is gonna win? I'M gonna go man, go Jimmy Race One. I'm going to be bold. Go Jimmy, race one, and then I'm gonna go chase, race to. All Right, okay, I can dream, Nick. What are you? I don't know. I think struggles. I'M gonna say Kurt Race One, and I'M gonna pick true x, first to bro No doer than I mean. And then race winners I'm gonna say. I'M gonna say Kesslowski, race one, and I think I'm gonna go hard race too. Should I go? I'll go yeah, for my struggles. This is hard. I mean not really. I think race one is going to be struggled a law by Alex Bollman. I don't. Bomm its just not had it this year. Other than its way at Fontana and his good run at Vegas. He's just not had it. I think Bowman struggles race one and race to him going to pick another Hendrik Chevy. I think Byron's going to struggle and this will put the club the cut line very close. I think Byron could even DNF or something like that. Haven't because he's had bad luck. But those are my struggles. My race win race one, I think. I think true x gets it done. I think he has had five top five third place finishes in a row. I think this is going to lead to consistency or he's just gonna get another third place finish in a row. So it's gonna be one of the two. I think he wins. Race two. One, I think race too, I'M gonna have to agree with nake and say Kevin Harvard gets it done race too. Wow, I'm going to say struggles race one. I see. I said I rain for I see like Joe La Gunner struggling and race one and like also, of course, Byron struggling. It's in to close the cut line. I've never seen fireness like a guy that's like little boy, I like a Dover or whatever. So I never seen Byron as a notable guy ever. Yeah, anywhere. But yeah, I'll see. I'm struggle. Race one I see Harvick, and race too, I see truex. Why? Yeah, yeah, it's going to be. It's going to definitely going to be. It's a it's a wild we can. We got the Indie five hundred to get markings ready win the pool,...

...but it's a whole other conversation. Will wrap that up next week. WHO's your race? H Cliff, and cliff one of the five hundreds. I would you said I'd be sweet, but I'd love to see Marco go fle to fleg. Not gonna lie. See you now, SAR. I mean mark the man demands like that's like five years. So hopefully this is like something. It like take his career backward was or something like that. I want hinge flift to win just because it means he probably gets the full time ride back next year. That'd be sweet. Id Love. He got ripped by n McLaren term contract. I mean this is the whole chorice battery died, but that's an Dang. You say he's big. Yeah, he did. I don't remember who they were, though I know he said someone about winning the second reason, I guess we should wrap it up. Yeah, WE'RE gonna. WE'RE gonna go ahead and wrap it up. Thank you, guys, for coming on this week as a talk point. He's got talked a little bit of everything, basically. And Yeah, any closing closing thoughts? No, I think ID for Dover. I think they'll be. I think they'll be solid races. I'm not expecting anything too amazing, but I think it'll be. Yeah, I'm not expecting a great race, but I mean, I think they'll be decent races. Where are you? What's the worst thing that could happen? Joey, look on or Chase Allie. It wins, like all right. Yeah, well, yeah, thank you, guys for coming on and, you know, yeah, thankfully choice. Yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for having us. That was this was fun. Yeah, this is definitely one. Will definitely have to get you guys back on here maybe when maybe we do like silly season or something like that, or you know. Oh, yeah, that'll be a good one. M But all right, guys, let's see you. Yeah, I see you.

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