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Episode 14 Nothing Like Petty or Earnhardt

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*Originally aired November 3, 2020*

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In this episode we talk about what Ben Rhodes did wrong as well as Larson’s new career.

As the 2020 season comes to a close we talk about Martinsville, make our championship predictions and give all of our two cents on the playoff format. It was a fun show! 

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Welcome that episode fourteen of Master hots a podcast. I'm your host, Troy Durn by, Kaden Nick and Crisp do this episode. We're going to go over a little bit of the Texas. Speaking now, I missed and what happened Kevin Harvard that led him to missing the championship for in a season that was bound for a championship. We're also going to go through the championship for and what happened for the drivers to get there and exfinity and trucks and a little more silly, silly season. That has happened to past two weeks. So let's start this off as everyone. Yeah, y'all go, because like that was does a hell of introi it wasn't bad. It was good as one of the best taxes reading Max's. Okay, saying it's one of the better Texas races is like saying a Michigan race is one of the Better Michigan races. They're all they all suck. What do you this one wasn't Bago. This is like at least seven out of ten. Yeah, which for textas standards that's like a twelve out of ten, because takes that seven is a seven seven is a seven? Sevens like average nowadays. Can Yeah, or what did you want it to be? At? Three out of ten? Yeah, because it's Texas. I don't like that track. Given have something like specific you Wanta. We want to touch on see, yeah, Kyle worson. No, no, you know, in in Texas it wasn't like one thing as specifics and joke and coblish one to race. What happened to trucks? I forget. Oh, you gotta go over the road the entire time. Oh my God, I'm ready to talk about Ben Road Shitt he driving. Yeah, REX direct, like two of my top five drivers, Kis and Wis, are then and then he also kind of yeah, yeah, why am I right? reculous race? was that Caden Martin's will? He didn't O we're not talking about talking about talks and I. He's still wrecked. And though in roads, kills Christian Kiss. Yeah, it killed Christian Kis and then blamed the entire kyle wish motor sports like Organization for their drivers that have a lack of talent, which I mean the drivers don't have a lot of talent, but like Ben Roade shouldn't be talking like he has like three truck wins in almost five years. I think so. I mean, what has kbm drivers town in the past two years? Besides Kyle Bush? Well, well, well, besides Gregson has been grabson and bells are gregs. Yeah, two years. Let's area, let's star has been kind of mediocre, but as bit has gone a lot better lately. Akis was really good in the summer but has just like choke the whole thing and he hasn't been that good. Harris, Tim Britain the truck series, she said, was like not as a good fit first driving style, and he did pretty good still, even though I missed the playoffs. And Todd Gillan. It was a mix of like luck and kind of like not performing, something wrong with like the team and him connecting to the team. So, yeah, this is this problem and with it with drivers and ky wish mortis from stuff like that. Roads and wrong. Roads isn't wrong, but roads is a wrong, but he is no place to talk. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's literally hit everything besides the broadside of a barn this season. I mean, roads isn't wrong, but like he actually kbm drivers each week are being like Natalie decker and wrecking their trucks each week, which they're not. They're not running they're not running gray. They're not running perfect by any means, but they're not being they're not the bottom tier drivers were roads...

...rose stoody racing with them each week. So, yeah, Katie, run up front a decent especially with ECK is. It just seems like they have problems towards the end of the race that they can't get it done. Yeah, she especially if your bend roads like maybe if you're like sheldon creating, you want to talk the KBM, like, go ahead, but for a guy that's been as bad as roads recently, you can't say anything. I'll end. Men, I'm happy that Chandler Smith kind of just like a sent them. I mean bad for Blicky, but like I'm just happy that like roads got sign yeah, he is. He deserved it is. Is that about it for the roads thing? Because, like, yeah, besides, like a Gragson choking in the front of Corner Burn winning and then Kyle Bush stretching to fuel and the cup race and winning for the first time the season, which was was cool to see, in my opinion. Oh, it was an empty win, not gonna lie. It was out for much, but like it's just it keeps the streak alive. I think it's really good for his part. Am I what am I looking for? Real? Oh, like, like, yes, for his career, and like is motivation, I or something like that. I was just going to ignore the words that I'm using. What word of what more out? Ego? Confidence, yeah, company to look for a confidence, connovation. Mental, yeah, mentally positive. It helps out a lot. And if he was going to go into two thousand and twenty one off a season that they got no win with and did not do good at all for his standers, then it makes sense that like this, this win, means a lot him. Can we mention Toyota one hundred and twenty three, but more mentioned Christopher Belle. What a runne he had. I was he kind of chess to he could have passed directly. Pat Package really hurt him. I don't think he was. I don't. I doubt he was going to catch eighteen. No, but I mean he was running. Kyle had like a for second lead and true x and belt chopped it down to like I think at the end of the race, Bell Bell was like two and a half seconds back and tricks was half a second back something like that. Yeah, we would like. I don't know how, but I expected Belle to do all of texts. I think came did too. I had a winning, which oviusly, I had a winning two pretty guys pretty close. I had no evidence to back up him winning texes. I just thought I design just said. I just said he'd win texes. Honestly, Chrispher wasn't having that great of a season, but he's been mad underrated. He's been better than the better at her. I think people expecting some much vine family step is similar, but competition is way higher the season. Oh yeah, they got more backing this year. Yeah, yeah, like a lot more. Like it was basically a fitzkips car and now he's winning and for winning two raises next season for a rookie. He has like three top fives, I think, and like eight top ten. It's around there. Yeah, I think that's really good for like you think ever conceasion. Yeah, Kyle Arson, you want all our wanting to the five car, Kyle Larson, to the five. CADEN's mad, but it's the most obvious. I'm not bad, I'm not saying he didn't deserve it. I'm just saying there to be an argument table. I'm not saying you didn't deserve it, but I'm just saying Jones could have done equally, if not maybe a little bit better in that car. All right, I feel like drick is thinking long term. Yeah, obviously if I don't sign it, contracts. So Yeah, if Joan signed a deal, I would have only been one year. Probably is not going to get sponsors at all. No ways and sponsor if he goes out and winds like two or...

...three races and someone will sponsor him next. Yeah, we're like Daytona, Daytona. He's definitely Hendry. Tony says goods for sure. Now he's could definitely be driving at all. Black Al, no sponsor, no, nothing. Not Even Hendrik wants to sponsor him. Have a feeling that Loumar's going to jump on for a few races because it is he's close with. Was it the vice president there? Yeah, I remember, I remember the Oh, yeah, I was. I read something about that. Yeah, so what if farmers insurance comes back? Nah, they well, I wish they wouldn't come back. They wouldn't come back. I mean they never produce great schemes anyways. Final thoughts on Larsonthew, because anyone surprise after Jones got announced to the forty three? Was Anyone surprised once Larson reinstated? It's Goover Martinsville. So no tracks, truck race sheldon cree. The race was not stop caution. How many cautions were there? There were, but I did watch eleven cautions for eighty two laps. So eighty two out of the two hundred laps are under caution. I watched the last five laps. Yeah, it was. It was pretty painful to watch because, like the racing wasn't wasn't that good. At my opinion, I mean the racing was the said besides, besides, like the last, the last like restarts were it was like just like kill everyone in the way that gets besides you. I think. I think the reason is kind of like all right, from Ourneville I into the race. So if she's go, should go over every pluff you ever. So Austin Hill. He was throther shies champion and they said going to the race that Marnsville was one of his weaker tracks and that the pretty missioned to survive. And that's not happen. He was doing really bad already and then they had a electrical issue or something like that and you couldn't get it working and they finally has drop out the race and that ended Austin Hills. Hope for a chanpige you for I'm on as I'm an Austin Hill Fan, so I feel bad. I'm honestly happy but like at the same time put off screw another driver like he was like top for driver, probably behind creed Smith and maybe mofit the entire season. He's second old points. Second, I'd say he's behind cream. That's it. Now uses a behind MOFFATT. MOFFATT actually has most points off. It's with the old system. He's for behind MOFFATTS and I should be really close the goods. Yeah, I'm racing references for the full season points. He's for behind them He's twenty two. Saying Smith would be forty and thinks like a sting points. But yeah, he's in the final four because he won anyway. So it was pretty much like all the other races, pretty much the GMS dominating, beside anchrome, of course, which is a creed Smith and my fit dominated the race mainly they led to most of the way and it was a pretty leg. There's a lot of cautious in a race. And then I forget what exactly happened. But in the closing laps, Oh, who was it? I think lessard came down on Bro Laughs. It no, on roads, and then roads had no where to go and MAFA was behind them and they checked up into him. I think. I don't think it. Less already came down. Looks like lessard was running his lane. I think roads came out. Well, it was hard race, but I'd rather the COOS. Yeah,...

...probably, I mean it's been Rhodes will. More could you expect? So this took out MOFFITT, which she was already locked in to their championship for Buffet had, I think, the fastest car already struck truck. Same thing. That's why mafitt led literally zero laps. Right. Good, I do know what I was like. I was looking at that. I'm like him and laughs. Did you lead? I'm like, Jo, we're just snack lamps. Yeah, two thousand and twenty, there's no one. And then I forgot how line. I hear what happened, but he choked. It forget how joy sawder and he lost all this talent back in two thousand and seven, like store freezing said, in the Texas race, and drum finished twelve and I was hoping that he would do something in this phrase, but it's two thousand and twenty. He didn't nothing this race. Head was already locked in and he finished eight, even though he had a probably like held sixty five laps, which I think was the most out of everyone. So he had the fastest truck and if I'm correct, it was your the him or Smith that got spun in like one of the final restarts in every and what I think it was created. He rebounded, but still it was a kind of killed his chances to win the race. Craft and I remember he was the one battling for that final spot. I think it was with him men versus Zane Smith. Saint Smith Craft in finished fifth and he would have gotten in if someone besides his teammates in finger a roads one, which of course in finger one, and that bump them out of the championships. You cannot go back to back in the championships. And then Zane Smith got third and he got don't even know how been Rhodes finished the race. I'm kind of disappointed that he did I'm extremely disappointed in the trip field. That been Rhodes there race the last second. Yeah, the last restart was like it was. It was short truck races, marns overs and buzz like the last couple ass and before the restart was like it was pretty dirty for like in finger, like a woe was driving you, not dirty, he was. He was driving pretty dirty, like there's a line between like short check race and being aggressive and then just playing out, not letting people pass, not giving like people they're a lane when they're under you. And like it was. It was bad, uncompular one over and over time, where you start. Good for him, he's in a Champione for and that was this fourth win of the season. So the championship for an Ava set and it is the three GMS guys have Moffitt, creed and Smith, drawn by the one doorsport guy, a grant finger. We want to give her championship prediction now. Yeah, to do it like at the end. Now, let's just do it now. Nick, WHO's your championship pick for trucks? I think it'll be MOFFITT, but I want creed to win. Chrissy, do you think it is? We're gonna goes the young gun and say Zane Smith try. Do you think it is? I was gonna go with Smith. I have a little bit more of a feeling for creed, but I just I feel I just feel like Smith can get it well with MOFFAT and the ADIENS versus Americans on this one. Okay, yeah, we'll have to see US oncle even happen in extrinity? I forgot. Hires. Yeah, Burton one again. Yeah, one dominated it. Did you dominate like straight dominate it? He led eighty one laughs. YEA, it wasn't a comin. Domination...

...is like true. X Two thousand and nineteen. That's domination. Well, I just remember. I'm just here burden getting the lead and then he just take off. Yeah, the closest to him was almond on the NERLEAN. Sixty laps. It didn't. I didn't, it didn't even he blew a tire, had a Bluety hate pit. Good man, only my good moment. Things like I wanted to win. He's gonna be full time next year. Watch it's going going into this. It was like a really close battle between chast stain and Haley, I think it was. It was as stain and brandon down that wasn't locked well, chastainingly and Brandon Jones, and then Gregson was a Mustlin bat had a really good chance. Had A really fast car, but burn burn showed up in the final laughs for much are like most of the race, while Gregson struggled for tract position, to keep his track fishing like he would be like mid packet some points and struggle to like stay up there, and cautious would have fallen his place. But yeah, what I remember, I don't think Burnon Jones had a get. I think he was like struggling to get top ten. So I think he had to win in the final stage to advance or everyone else to be bad and then Gregson could have won. I was hoping Gregson one because I wanted to see what he can do in the final four. It'll be hardage, but I would love that. He also deserved it the most, I guess. Yeah, he's been extremely highest and besides the to know, but have you seen this is finishes and in the playoffs what they like ridiculously high. We're beside. Besides, besides, like two of them, five, fifth, seventh, second, third, second, thirty six, second, third. Where do you finish thirty six. Oh, that was Kansas early. They we see exactly. He would have beat us up that the most. Like it's finishes were crazy. Yeah, son to Care Harvard desert again. We'll get to that. Can we just get to that? I just want to know we got so seek was easy out. Jones was a mediocre all day. Justine chest and had a fast carver the fast enough, and then cindric makes it in, briscoes already locked in all the guy makes it in off points and then Hayley also makes it in as the fun I got to make it in and he had like a top five Carl Day, but he kind of like foe back late and you finished twelve the cup serious. So forwards rundown, Chase Elliott. Oh, you know, trix led very early and chase all it started like ninth or so like that, so he had to work his way through the field. But here's pulled away a little bit and led all the laps until the COMP caution. And then fast forward day. They've restart. I think Tu rex is leading and then chase takes to lead. If I'm corrected. That works, and then there is an accident between Clint Boyer and Austin Dylan and Erica'Mrula, where I'm rolling the backstretch is under Clint Boyer and Clip Board is not the position up and I'm Rolla is just like no, I'm not backing off and spins boyer and then want to know where to go. But none of them got like damage. Really that's pretty minor. Fast forward, got a lot of back markers having problems these in this process. Harvard is in danger when lapdown and while this happened, he has he gets contact from Kenzith and this blows. However, it's tire. Harvard...

...needs to pit and Harvard is two laps down now, while the second comes at a pit road and he's two laps down. A cause you comes out and everyone had him pits. So Harvard gets the wave rounds. He's automatically one lapdown now and he would spend two hundred of the next laps trying to get that laugh back and a caution. There's a lot of long runs, but a caution would come out and he would not be two free pass. It would be like guys like Timmy Hill or Jjalely, I remember was one of them, and Timmy how got three straight lucky dogs bra yeah, I remember seeing that, like tree. That's funny. The only other thing that happened was chase Elliott choked his pit stops two times. But when you're mid race and all you see is your driver's name, Papa from Oh my God, heart sings. Well, that is always the scariest feeling, when you're just chilling them. Then all of a sudden you see it to you from Bob with your name or with your driver's name on it. He's like happening? That happened for the taxi race. Well, before, like it originally start on it said Bart. I'm just like, Oh my God, what, What went wrong now? What? Are we going to the back? No, we got up twenty point. We would have made the playoffs. If, well, it's not hype, it's true. I can we would have made the championship, for if, for one James Small. For some reason they didn't. Why would he touch the spoiler? That's like the only part of the car that you're not supposed to touch. What he touched it because he's Australian. I'm sorry, Danny. Australian's watching and very adventurous people sitting. The fact that true x was still at the end of the race sixty six points behind Harvard. He would not have made it into the final four with a cutty not being there. I swear when he was running second he was twenty seven points behind. Oh you know, that might have been when kids last year someone was leading. That would have made a lot of sense. Okay, so she's wins and Y'all go over to finish with points and everything like make sure got you, like you the last like thirty laps. Actually, that happen. So true, rex. What happened? He got a loose tire. Thanks. Love you guys so much. He got a loose tire which ended up he was still finished like twenty two, which isn't good. Didn't win them, so nothing happened there. Kevin Harvard raced his hard. I mean the man was racing hard and he knew what he had to do. He had to pass Kyle Bush to win, and he was saying it would like twenty dough. He's like to Roden children, she's like, don't tell me what the point situation is. He didn't want to hear it. And then Rodney Children's would like. I think it was like two to go. Is like, you need to pass this eighteen car. Harvard went for it. Harvard went for it hard and as he was going for it, Hanlon was dropping like a rock. A you know who was in twelve behind any Hanlon, the number twenty of Eric Jones that are trones. I would have driven around him. Joe Gives fired me earlier in the season, so it doesn't matter, but I mean, come on. Harvard sent it. He ended up spinning himself in the process, which gave Kyle Bush of three hundred and sixty. He ended up keep going. That's cool. Harvard failed to advance. With nine wins and in regular season points, he has clinched the championship already. Someone explain to me how that is the most fair and balanced playoff system of all time. I want to legitimately hear it. Actually like say, because you know I'm not going to say it, but people are damning those people. People, people were laying Yo, they uses four Betton in the NBA and the m nfl and stuff like that. You know what Nascar is doing right now, and I yes, I'm getting this from icebergs video that was posted earlier today, because I said, I watched it all because iceberg is a great content creator on Youtube. Shout out, Iceberg. Continuing my statement, now Nascar is trying to combine the...

NFL style playoff with the NCAA March madness tournament, and it is ridiculous and straight BS buy a NASCAR to do this. You cannot sit there and tell me y'all looked at this, Sawdom on paper and decided, Oh yeah, this is the best way to decide a champion. Know the format that we had from two thousand and four into two thousand and what six or seven? Six, two thousand and six is a million times better than this. Ten drivers, ten races go. None of this. Sixteen drivers went in your in elimination cell. B. Yes, no, ten drivers, ten races go. That's the best format that we've had. And try and create intentional drama. That's what this is. And if we said they want a game seven moment, you can't get that. You can't get that here. They try to make him more dramatic and they're trying to appeal to the more General Sports Fan. That's yeah, you mean on paper sports you try to take ball sports. Still in motor sports you keep no, it's garbage. It's beyond pen and paper. It sounds like a good idea and if they were going to keep this format, I think they should totally scrap the win in new advance to next round. I think if they're going to do that, they can give whoever wins more points. I don't care, because that's deserve. They want the one more points get. Yeah, give them maybe fifteen or twenty, if you want to go that far. They actually ten to fix ten, ten to fifteen, somewhere in there. I don't care. You give them as many points as you want, but you cannot sit here and tell me Joey Lagana has been good all season. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he's been garbage, but he got two wins early on. I never I didn't. I can't tell you a race where Lagana surprised me from his win at Vegas. Was Vegas is first win or second win? Vegas was the first, second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so phoenix. Did he deserve it more than Kevin Harvard? Well, God, no, no, no, no one, almost no one did. No one deserved there is no one. There is no one that like. If they're and playoffs, there's no one they could be like. Oh, Harvec shouldn't have made it above this guy like this. No one. Yeah, and I don't want to sound biased, but I I think. I think Wikan Thos hire and points and tricks by like ten. Actually, let me look at it like a regularly off standings, he is ahead by fifteen. I'm not I'm not saying trick should have made it over Lagana, but it's just sucks to see how many good runs he had. He finished second at Texas, Texas, that's what it's called. He did finish seven, seventh that Kansas, and then he should have finished second, but like that all happened. That's not his fault, but he still ended up finishing twenty two. Basically, my summary is harvy should have made the final four and no one can debate that. We need a new system right now. I would. They won't change it, but we need one. This has still wouldn't be ideal, but I was thinking that they could still do the rounds and just cut off guys instead of doing the winning your in. So like the points would carry over if someone be as good, but it would be better than those women go through. Yeah, I don't. I don't like the idea of when the first race of around you could take off. Yeah, I hate that. I because like the playoffs were made to on all out ten race grid and you have to be like on your game all the way out, and like the fact that you win the first race of around and your you're clear untild the thanks round is just like it's not fun. I...

...remember like Lugano and two thousand and eighteen, like he won Martinsville, but then he crashed really early in Texas and a man like yeah, and Phoenix and in and to him it's just like me it means nothing, like you've warked the car and like it means nothing. You're in front of for so Texas and Phoenix are are nothing, and I don't like that. It's stupid how they like created that. And I want to go back to like how we mentioned how things like the NCAA and the NFL. I mentioned a lot of people that like each game in those series you're against one team, as obviously a nascar you're gainst the whole entire competition every week. There's no one that's changing. They're going to competing with competitive so I don't see like how it's fair to take a sport like that, that as a different team most games, to put it up against where you're competing against the same field for week and hopefully see you know, it's kind of hard to explain, but like, I feel like it makes a lot of sense. And Yeah, yeah, this isn't going to make any sense. I don't think you guys will get this, but what if, instead of the playoffs, we had a thirty five race regular season and then the final race, the top four points go on to let's say Phoenix, and then they raced out for the championship? Then you still have to grind. Yes, troy, you want to raise your hand. Top to, top to, top to, you know, a top to I could I could definitely agree with, because people are like, I don't want them walk in. I've rather a champion lock it up before the finale. Then what happened to Harvard. But honestly, people don't like them locking it up before the finale and I feel like if they take the top two, which is usually the top two are the most deserving, like look at all reason years top to. There's always two out of the four or the final four, then most deserving. So just take the top two and put them up against each other. Exactly. Yeah, so thirty five race. So you still have to battle through the whole season. It's not your Austin Dillan, you win and you can just flow on by to the round of sixteen where you're going to get eliminated. You have to race every race your hardest, one hundred percent, and it's just you're going to have those guys who dominate. But that's how sports should be. Sports should be dominated. I don't I would rather have domination then a close finish, a photo finish every week. It's just domination is a part of sports and people need to realize that. Whether they don't like it, it's still gonna happen no matter what they change. You can't force. Yeah, again, that's what Nastra is doing. Their forcing the desperation of drivers, and that's that's what we got. We got Harvard wreck and Kyle Bush coming to the line for that one point to getty champions of four, and that's not cool to see. And I everyone else is like, oh, that was dirty. Harvard streeting have done that, but it's like you feel for the guy. He's his whost season was on the line. He's forced in the situation and I hate that it does that. Like I mentioned earlier today in the group check, how like I didn't really feel any emotion about seeing Harvey get eliminated. I think one thing I realized and his post ration of view. He was really calm and really collected about it all, and he mentioned how these championships aren't like petty and Earnhardt's did back in the day. Another thing he said he'd rather win races and have the season that he had then when the championship, because drivers don't care if they get eliminated anymore. They don't care about winning the championship anymore, because these championships are not real...

...championships. They're not they're not what you used to be. Even just what let's say, I say the whole champion real championships ended in thirteen and even then, even then it's the last. The last N one was Kens. It's because he dominated an entire season. The last year one was Martin dricks junior in two thousand and seventeen. That's what that's still assistance of the playoffs, no matter what he did throughout the entire season. Even with win some point, they would have won. Think Hey, guess what ahead around it? The Hart did this year. You weren't one of the Child And oh the only this system is complete and utter garbage. Is What what's going to happen? Chase BRISCO's going to go into the exfinity race next week and crash out fifteen laps in, and then he's going to basically in the same boat as harved yeah, you sact same boat, Justin Haley Champions Justin Haley wins. I'll watching after got no truck in the championship and ex affinity. Then it's garbage. Yeah, now, guys been good, but he's. Yeah, it's and drinking. As as an all guy friend, I wanted to win, but the same time, if he wins, I will not be satisfying with that because exactly like the same way as how I wanted directs tricks to win advance and any win at Phoenix. I would I would of love to see that, but it just wouldn't have felt genuine. Felt genuine. I've been over, though. Like all guyer hasn't really shown domination like the other guys have. RICHT was Chrisman. Oh, he wont over too, though, Danny. He want to hear races. Yeah, no, chase risko one, hold risk one, no, not over Um. No, rich all guy, all our sweat, richman. Yeah, different, boring, oval, Brim Hot, Hammon out. Yeah, I feel something else. Think. But but anny Hammond and June Jones. Yeah, the Gibbs thin can no, I know. I was gonna know. I don't agree with if I was, I would have done a big bittle finger and just cooks your right into hand about you. I wouldn't have fought without after being imagine, imine. He makes like one mistake and he just like puts him onto the wall and he's like next week, next, next week. He pulls a Casey Cane and he starts his ride at petty early. You got kicked from their car this year and trucks. Angelo Rook. Yeah, no, the other one. There was another one, I swear sky. Oh yeah, jazzine. Yeah, Jones randomly got kicked from his car. Oh Dude, my dad and I were joking about that earlier today. You Know Me. I'm a big Toyota Guy. I like him on, I like Jones, but what they did is what spin. That's what spen gate was. It's been gay was more. You See, I want to compare them. They're two different things, but they're two very similar ways that they were done. They both were helping someone advanced and they had I figured what spen gate was. I watched a video on it today. It was no penalty for Boyer, but there's a penalty for the fifty five of vickers for pitting to give turicks a position to make the playoffs because he needed that. And you know what Jones was doing, not taking that position from Hamlin's so Hammler can make the final four. I like Camon. I want him to get his first championship. But in that sense I'm going to say I think aylone's...

...going to be penalized. I think he's gonna lose. They're ready yet theready comes. They didn't. They said Jones isn't going to analyzed. No, they didn't say Haylon did know. But they can't. They can't penalize Hammond because you know NASCAR, after the year Hanlon's had and how many people are behind him and and want him to make the championship, they won't just like take it out of his hands. Dude, NASCAR is now like F one. There are no team orders in Nascar. You can't make team worse in Nascar. What happened was bs again. It exactly Jones. If if I was Jones, I would raise my heart out. I would have passed Hamilon. You know a year don't fired. Done a bumping run. You got fired. Why are you helping a guy who's not your teammate? Yes, they might be friends, which people are saying. Yeah, but Jones is Jones. Could have had a top ten there. Who knows? Maybe you don't had a great car. Maybe John's could have finished all five. It was unlikely, but maybe he could have. But that's all at the window now. It's so stupid. It's this, isn't this. Isn't real racing anymore. This is this, is none of the teams and the drivers. Yeah, it's the teams in the drivers and manipulating the system, adding, adding to like what you said how it's like it's not real race anymore. I mentioned my story like last night that like Nascar wants drama over skill. I said that in the chat. You just hit my words. Yeah, I pretty much day. I remember that the Winston format was from which like put them all on track. Let him race, let him shore the skill let them entertain. The fans themselves don't and it proved they don't need to put all these the bonus points and like all these gimmicks. The only thing I can argue that I actually enjoy from recent years that they've added is stage rasing. That's the only thing I'm mildly enjoy because it rewards I still do. You know, you don't like it. Down it wrech momentum to love are it recks Momagum, but I feel like are rewards consistency throughout the whole race. It brings more strategy in, but then again they're bringing more gimmicks and makes there yeah, strategy. Yeah, I don't like the fact that there's a caution. I don't like the fact that they know when there's a caution. Yeah, you know, I would have robbed. They should should actually do going. They should exactly should tally down who it gets. It gets the stage win or whatever, but instead of throwing the caution, they just keep going. He's doing it would make it Subli stage cautions. So like sometimes there would be no stages, sometimes they just throw them randomly. That would be a big kid. You want to caution back on. Is that what you want. We saw how much of a failure that was with the trek series and can I was all right. It was the caution clock for Kensas in two thousand and seventeen, which got him eliminated. No, that was or didn't you have to any man over the walls, over the ball? Can't we have let that like a crazy amount. I think it was like it's like nine, like nine or something like that. Billy days. Are Nine guys gotta like go o for the Wam be like hold, you're you're just foot out of the pit box. It looks around. He just push that foot back into pit. Yeah, he's just looking around. You just look at a round. He's like. He's like, he's like counting the guys. He's like, you know why? Might as well. We're already getting padlized. HAPPEN TO CHASE NASCAR is in the but implemented a new role where you can have as many guys over the wall. That would have happened. Honestly. They probably said I didn't well, we didn't have cameras over there. We didn't see it. Yeah, six main championship picks, Nickig Justin Haley. No, what for? I'M gonna say Brisco I'M gonna say Brisco I think, I hope, I pray that he gets it done because he definitely deserves it more than anyone else. Chris, I know...

Chris as say. No, I'm gonna say Brisco because Briscoe does deserve him more. But if he doesn't get it, then obviously Syndric, because yes, the second guys like it's if it's neither of the Ford's another playoff fault. Yeah, sure, even though I don't like some drink, I'm content if cindric wins it, because he deserves more. I'm already said I'm that. On that note, I'm going to say Briscoe. Definitely. I'M gonna Haley. Now, I'm joking. I would, I'm bad legit. I'd legitimately stop watching ask her if Haley wins, like you can. You can take my word for it, but if Haley wins the championship, you can hold me to I don't care the sports make. Now I'm going to we can all want me to it. Wild me to it, I dare you. My My area championship pick is Brisco that's good. I've Come Cup Championship, Cup Champaign shient. Pick, I'm gonna say Elliott. Last, Jay said it. Last I'm gonna say Lagano. Third, Guessloski Second, and I think Hamlin gets it done this year. Finally, Chris Go. I might switch Hamlin and Braad. Okay, okay, I'm just going to say whoever, whoever's sound bite like, actually gets to raising to go an enter next week, or whoever at least gets the championship. Pick right, Heyl Brad interchangeable in my opinion. I might switch. It's gonna rea. Now it looks gonna. He's gonna Finish four points and be quiet. You really have directs for really new things. I don't have to recks when any because you can hands of someone's gonna get wrecked. That's what's gonna Happen. I was gonna, because I keep going, Joey's going to finish third, because you'll probably end up wreck too, because you'll piss off someone else. Do you know it? They'll probably take out each other just because I don't like where you going with this. Cool with that, cool with that. I like. I was chas will be second. I guess I'll take second off from Michigan, and he's the best car on the short tracks this year. Great, because Lawsky is your champion, but Harvard's going to win the race to Piss everyone off even more than they are ten ways on the season. I would, I honestly would be pretty happy. He's the people's Cham so Okaitch, are you go all right? This might turn a little bias here. Oh God, chase first. Okay, myself. Fourth will be Lagano. Third, will we hammon second, because usky chase first. I'm in, but I'm so stupid. I don't invite me to get. I'm in between on first a second and you're in between chase getting. God, at Phoenix, but like, wow, she's just last year. God, I don't know why. It's one track, one track of year and improving, but one track of year at improving. Yeah, got Marnes, Phil I can't I can't ask for too much. You Got Marn's will down fun. Okay, so I have fourth. I'M gonna say. This is hard. I think at Phoenix they're all pretty equal. I'm going to say forth is going to be Haym one, not because he res but I just don't see him being better than chase, joey or Brad. I'm going to say third is going to be. I'm going to say Brad is third. Second. I'm praying chase Elliott finishes second because I don't want him winning. He does not deserve that. More in hand. About to say, are you about to say someone's gonna get his second championship? I don't want to say, but you know, you know when you've got that gut ranching feeling that you know something's going to happen that's gonna upset you. Anyway that happens. I...

...don't want Joey to win the championship because he's been bad, not bad, but he's not been gray most this season. I think Joey Lagano gets his second undeserving championship of his career. I go right along with this playoff format. Yeah, I mean he should have four championships if we use the other playoff format. Yeah, kidney tricks would have to Joey would have for Harvard, would have DU imagine if that was the format and Joey had four championships right now. Joe Won from two thousand and fourteen, two thousand and fifteen, twenty and sixteen. I think I never mind. I love this playoff format. Yeah, yeah, I think it. Two Thousand and eighteen again. Actually, yeah, because he did. Yet two thousand and fourteen, two thousand and fifteen, twenty sixteen was joey. Two thousand and seventeen was true. X. Two thousand and eighteen was joey due, Joey. Twenty twenty, Kyle. No, twenty and nineteen was true. X. Yeah, it was one of the two thousand and twenty was Harvark. Well, yeah, because he already had it locked. Yeah, by the time he even made that videos, already locked. Yeah, I don't I don't know why. You said Joey were going to win the championship. I was debating Joey Babe was to be. I was honestly debating like Joey and Brad, but I just have this guff feeling that like Joey's gonna do something. Old Joey's gonna wreck someone. Already. I'm already calling I think if Joey's gonna wreck anyone beam, one day he's gonna run regular and the fans are going to go mental. You got over, you got over Perm which everything. Yeah, off, I didn't even rain about sure, excess is a new record. Thank you for what thank you for listening to that episode and I hope to see you back next week. As we discussed the champions, our hope, champions. You Week is great and Phoenix, it becomes a deserving track of the schedule. Make sure you found me. As for hot spot, from wherever you're listening to, what is it like? Follow on spotify, apple, spotify and apple music, and the subscribe on Youtube is subscribe on Itunes, apple podcast. Yeah, yeah, crap on there too. Yeah, sure to leave us a review. Yeah, leave us a review. You know what bad. Much is bad, though? We don't. Yeah, don't leave us with enough. Maybe we'll start reading some reviews.

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