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Episode · 1 year ago

Episode 26 Ryan Sparks Joins the Show

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this weeks episode we sit down with Ryan Sparks to go over his career in racing. The challenges of being a crew chief and adapting to that role the past two years after being a race engineer majority of his career in NASCAR.

Also wait until after the interview for Caden’s special Talladega pick!

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Ryan sparks. He's the crew chief for Cory Le Joy and Christ wanner starts off. Yeah. So first question, and more of a basic one that everyone asked, what really got you into racing? Oh Man, well, at a young age I started going to Bauma Gray stadium working on open little modifiedes for Bobby Hutchins. He was a family friend and he was a mechanical engineer and I, you know, I kind of liked what he did. You know, he raced cars himself, he worked on race cars, he worked at RCRMDLLN Heart's car, who was kind of all of our idols at some point in time if you enjoy NASCAR racing. So you know, shadowed him for a long time and I just I knew pretty early that I wanted to be in racing and, you know, I really like the engineering route and that's that's kind of the way I went and fortunately it led into a crewchiefrol. That's awesome. Yeah, and obviously mentioned in RCR and your past with ours here. Did he have any influence with you getting in there? Did you kind of get in there yourself? Yeah, no, absolutely. So he was still vp of competition when when I when I got on at RCR started out as a date acquisition engineer right out of college and you know, I worked on Clint bowyers on the Oseven car doing day acquisition. That's back when we tested about every week. And then the next year I moved to the twenty nine car and did they owned Harvak's car and then in two thousand and ten Austin went truck racing and I was kind of the next engineer in line to get a race engineering position and and I just transitioned into that role and I stayed with Austin all the way through cup and until two thousand and nineteen. Yeah, that's awesome that. Anyone else take over from there? If you guys are fun ansome. So actually imprecated. Yeah, I only got excited because, like Clinton boyers o seven car and I've always been a fan of a Jack Dane's car. But anyway, so you work with many drivers for many years. What was like your favorite moment or like win or whatever while working at OURCR be engineer. Oh man, that's stuff. Had some big ones with Austin. Obviously the Daytona five hundred. It's hard to top that. It's a freaking day town. A five hundred engineering wides. It's like, yeah, a lot of it Sud look, you know, being in the right place at the right time at a speedway race, but they're so hard to win. So that was pretty special and just being able to you know, add that to my resume. But the coke six hundred win for us, you know, we had like a seventh eight place car all day and then, you know, did some strategy and did some film ot stuff that we'd really been working hard on the Engineering Department and paid...

...off and I got that win. We actually ran out of gas coming out of four and I was able to be cobblished by, you know, twenty car links or something like that. So that was pretty special to me. And you know, those two and then probably the first truck win and I was Austin. That was pretty cool. So just to you know, be on his team and get his first win in a big in one of the big three series. So that was pretty special as well. That's awesome for sure. Are you can you guys, Huntry, do you have a so you work with awesome most of the time and I don't want to assue it, but it is. He your favorite driving you've worked with I mean, yeah, really, I guess he's like the one I've worked with the longest. I really like working with Corey. Like his demeanor. He's a really good guy. He's passionate. You know, his relationship, him and I was relationship is kind of similar to what Austin I had. You know, we can we can get on each other and, you know, tell each other we're wrong and not get mad about it. You know, we know that we're trying to better the race car, you know, and so I really like his passion and you know, I'm sure I look to work with him for a long time and I said I enjoy working with them. But you know, had had a lot of years with also known about him and I are still really good friends and we talked before and after every race and, you know, just kind of try to help each other out on we can. So we still have a really good relationship. Awesome you are. Yeah, go a great das grass, about your race. We kind I know it is your best finish of the season with coryla join that seventeen. So how was your race week? Can Overall? No, it was good. It's really tough with the way they set the line up for the races. You know, it's depending on your points, your last week's finishing position and then your fast lap of the previous race. So our luck has been terrible, which I understand. You make a little bit of your own luck, but we just had an executed very well all year and it was unfortunate. Had a really good run going in Martinsville, ran in the side the top ten for a little bit and caution came out and got caught up in some mess on pit road and tore the nose off. So you know, that just kind of ruined our day. But I felt like we were capable of finishing tent and that would really set us uping nice for Richmond and just coming from thirty six it's so hard. It's hard to stand on the lead lap by the competition caution. Just the pace is so much slower back there in the dirty air it's really hard to get going. But you know, we caught a good caution. We didn't pitted. Our plan was to split the second stage in half and not in thirds, just because the huge risk of game getting a caution and tracking you a couple laps down, which is what happened to a lot of the guys, but it set us up for the for the rest of the race and the twenty one was a decent day. We're I feel like we expect ourselves to be there. Realistically, that's probably around where we should be, but you know, we're we want to get fifteen and just keeping proving. Yeah, Nick, do you want to...

...go or oh yeah, I can go ahead. So my first question. Obviously we talked a bit about the time of RCR. I was just wondering sort of what kind of insight and what sort of help you can provide coming from a massive team like ourcr into a sort of new building team likes fire. Yeah, so coming from a bigger team to a smaller team, obviously it's it's a totally different mindset and I got a little bit of a dose of a small team last year with working with go fast and Corey over there in the thirty two car. But it's it really, you know, the biggest difference is people, right, you just you have so many people. Everybody there is like specified to one job right where now I got, you know, one guy that may do ten jobs right. So we're very limited on time and it's in when you're like that it's you got to you got to be really smart on how you plan and make sure you're not only just getting to the racetrack but you got a better the cars throughout the season, because that's what all the big teams are doing because they have so much people, in time and effort put into the car. So in the grand scheme of things, it's really hard to keep up with that. But I think we've done decent job. I mean we got the keys to the building on December first and had literally nothing in the shop and you know it's a fully operating shot now. We had a little bit of a mess with covid knocking some guys out. I missed homestead race, so that was tough. The call from literally from my bedroom, but you know, we're getting there. We're but spires here for the longer run. You know, they want to build a competitive race team and they realize that. You know, Hendrik and OURCR and get, I mean they've been doing it for I mean RCR has been around fifty years, you know what I'm saying. So that's a long, long time to catch up. But you know, I think we can build a successful program over the next few years, especially with the next Gen car coming and having a common car. I think that'll help a lot and just kind of NASCAR slowing down the development process and things like that. Hey, you kind of the go ahead and sorry. Okay, yeah, my my other question was obviously, being a relatively new crew chief and coming from a job as an engineer, I was just wondering what the learning curve was like, because I'm sure there was a big step up and sort of pressure, the workload, stuff like that. Yeah, I mean, I feel like I do a lot of the same job that I did as an engineer. I said now is it's a crew chiefs roll that these this day and age is more managing people. You know, now I have a group of twenty five guys eyes that look up to me and and you know they're waiting on answers for me. You know what to do the car this week and you know, you know it's on my shoulders, whereas an engineer, you know you're just kind of feeding all the information to the crew chief to make the decisions. Right now, I'm I'm that guy. I have an engineering background, so understand the data and everything coming in, but now I'm having to make those decisions but the transition wasn't that bad call on the races,...

...like I love doing that anyways, like I'm really into the strategy and I like to be a little creative and do things differently than most. So it definitely can be difficult and I think it would be more difficult maybe back in the day, but now that I feel like the sport is more engineering driven, that it kind of played in my hand a little bit. So turn about strategy and steps and this and that. What's especially with going from you've had bristol, dirt, Martinsville and Richmond and now we're going to Talladega. What's one big thing you have to try to figure out to do to the cars weekend and week out, especially when, like I said, going to from the short tracks to the big super speed race? Yeah, obviously it'll be a totally different mindset this weekend, but you know, whether it's a short track or or superspeedway, you know the mindset is heavily based on Air Dynamics. It's the most important things, sad to say. You know, obviously we still got to put mechanical group in the cars with the setups, but we've all been around long enough. We have simulation, we can optimize the setups, but just to spend those extra hours in the Hawk eye to optimize your body and just making sure you're getting the most down forced or the most not necessarily the most down force, but the most efficient car, you know, down force versus tray drag. Whether you want to trim out or not just kind of depend on weather conditions and stuff like that. It's all super important, but obviously this weekend will be as trimmed out as we can and trying to make as much speed as we can down Talladega. That's awesome. And then you guys have anything else, because I know I can do a couple more. No, yeah, all right, oh, troy, no, his mikes muted. Try Your might be to brow and make it seem ID professional man. Won't? I had a question and then I could forgot it. See Christie, one more typical choice stuff. That's I got I got to write it down. Yeah, so, and then going back talking about setups and all this and that. What's about? And you also mentioned the next Shan car. What's which? One big thing you're probably most excited for with that next Gen car coming next year. I don't know, it's I'm excited that it's going to be common across the board the chassis. Obviously the body will be a little different depending on your manufacture, but you know it'll you'll have the same amount of down force, drag or whatever as the other you know, they build that into the speck from pernascar whatever. So it's exciting to have some no one that you have the same equipment as everybody. But I know just I don't know what to think. It kind of takes some of the creativity out of it and ingenuity and stuff like that...

...that we've all been trying to bend the rules and get around. And I'm sure we'll still do that and we'll just have to find a different way to do it, you know. So some of the bigger teams are already testing, doing, you know, tire test and structural test and during say that's on the car for for Nascar. So it's still the little guys are not. They'll have their hands on it yet, you know, they've never seen it. So it's still going to be a pretty big mountain to climb for a smaller team. I do think as far as lap time wise, the gap will be closed a little bit and it will be a little bit more in the driver's hand. So I like that part of it, but it's still to our to tell. For me, I just I got to wait till late in the year we actually get our hands on the car and do some testing. Yeah, that'll be better. Be Not too far with the templates for all three being released in so that'll be that'll be pretty exciting to see that. Yes, so I can get our first car in June and will probably do a test in September, October or something like that. That's awesome. That's that's that's exciting to hear because so much is being built up on this new car and what is what keep what it can do competition wise with everyone. Like you mentioned, I think you'll see like more and more road racing it. I'm interested to see, like when we go to Martinsville and you're beaten Bang and how you know the independent rear suspension. You know, how's it going to handle that style of racing? I don't know. You know, it'll definitely be interesting see how how it stacks up and it you know, if you'll be able to make contact or race as hard as you do now and some of the short tracks. So I think it's still up in the air if it'll go to the dirt race or not. Obviously they've announced they're going to do another one of those and which was it was cool. I enjoyed dirt race. I dirt race with my knees over the past few years and had a lot of fun with that, but I don't know if it's meant for Sunday. So I'll just leave you pet yeah, I say there there's a few driggers that definitely voiced their opinion about that. I know I listened to Corey's podcast so I definitely heard his his take on the timing of the start of the race when we did have the Bristol dirt race, and he wasn't too fond of that. Just to know it needs to be at night. The Sun is just so it dried out the track way too quick and super it was a dust. Well you can see any thing. It was tough even from even from watching at home and in the cameras you could barely even see who's who they're pointing out. Was this terrible? Am I Kad? Yeah, I think it. I was night coming fixed a lot of it. Yeah, just there and I went straight down. It's like the bottom of the bleachers, right behind the fence, and they went for it through to turn its crazy is when der, whenever you recovered in dirt. I was sitting. I was sitting in front of the fence for the final fifty laps and I had to take a break couple times just like turn around, just like a wipe, like dirt out of my...

...eyes and stuff like. Guy, I got really bad at some points. But they didn't even they didn't race it like a dirt track. They're right around the bottom and they drove the car super straight. These those they're just not designed to be driven sideways, you know, the big heavy cars. It's just they're made to be on asphalt. But it hey, a lot of the fans did love it and I'm if they kind of drive our sport and I'm good with it and TV enjoyed it and that's what will do. Yeah, it's definitely seemed like definitely seemed interesting. I think. I think the truck guys, I mean granted, true, extra over like a pavement truck, but the rest of the truck guys. He had Caden Bragg, so that that's the guys tried to drive it more like as if they're going to eld or this and that. So I think Max it will be interesting to see how they do on there. Yeah, and the trucks. You know, they got a few years under the bilt, you know, doing that, and so they probably optimize with trucks a little more than we have, just a lot of the cup guys, even though we're in cup, we have less experience at it. So but yeah, as you can kind of see, the the cream always rises to the top, you know, the good drivers always seem to find a way and see we definitely see Corey get up near the front on the short tracks is we all know. That was his bread and butter growing up. So it was as it's always nice to see because I'm and these there you always give me are not really give me a slack for, but I always put him in my top five for drivers wis the past couple of years. So it's nice to see when the team and him were able to get up near the front. Yeah, you know, when you take Arrow out of the equation like they do in short tracks, it gives us an opportunity right. It creates an opportunity to just takes one of the elements away that that is kind of stacked against US each and every week. And Oh, super shoe, he's a he's a pretty damn good short track racer. He's got a lot of wins under his belt and as you can see at Martinsville, you know I mean, we start back there and we drove all the way to tense. We had a car. That's personally my favorite track, not that I put any more effort in there than I do everywhere else, but we spend a lot time on that race car and was really proud of our effort, even though it didn't, you know, the finish didn't show it. I feel like a lot of teams newer there for sure. Yeah, I heard you say this. All super shoes. That what is that the nickname you gave cory? Oh, no, that so that Corey. That's just that's his name. Like his nickname, I guess, you say, is Super Shoe. That logo we always get a hard time. It's like an ass and then it has like it looks like it's a triangle, but we call him super pizza sometimes, or Pick Adam or something like that. But yeah, Super Shoe. That's kind of what they called them at back in the day short track racing. So I'll call them shoot shoe or super shoe, especially we do something good. So talking about joking around a little bit and all this and that, and I'll let NICKERD KDEN ask this question because this is always one of our favorite questions to ask anyone we have. I think I did it last week...

...for two weeks ago, so I'll let Kaden take it. Do you have any funny stories at the track from being around? We we do this every week with well, not every week, but every time we have a guest. All we do this. So do you have any funny stories to tell us about corey or just about exit? We're seeing a jaggy racing. Yeah, Gosh, I'm sure a million. It's less now because we don't practice. We're not there. Yeah, Code. That seems to be the trend with everybody. Yeah, that this person to say that. It's saying that honestly, in the cup garage when you walk in the door to work or in the in the garage, excuse me, I mean it. It is balls to the wall as fast as you can go and just your busy. So I don't know, I can't think of one right off the top of my head, to be honest with you. I don't know. I like said, I'm I'm sure I'll think of it later, soon as I get off, but I had another question anyway, just to throw and we definitely we talked, talked about it a few episodes ago and they're definitely some mixed reactions. I was just wondering what your thoughts were about the street course idea. I think it's awesome idea. I think it's I think it's cool. I think a lot of the tracks on the circuit are awesome already. There's a lot of places I don't think we should go twice. You know, I'd rather go to a new place. Street course is awesome. I'm pretty you know, at least Atlanta wears tires out right. Thank you. At least as something unique. I'm we're I'm we're more lean on Texas. I'm not a big fan of tast know what, Texas used to be awesome before they paved it. I mean it was fast, more tires out. It was pretty cool. It's and I can it's bored I'm I'm disappointed. All Star race is going to get it's going to be bored. Yeah, you know that. Everybod all in agreement. Yeah, we know that one. Yeah, I stretching flights on the cars, Texas areas in the All star race or something like that. You know that. You know, I could keet a act. I also don't think we need seven road courses on the schedule. But I disagree. I actually I'm a bit like roads guy. I like road course racing. Creates an opportunity to bring a strategy into it, but I don't know road racer by any means. I've learned something new every time set up wise or make the far better or or worse. You know, I'm, you know, learning on that aspect all the time just because I didn't grow up doing it. You know, I just, you know, I feel like Nascar. Their bread and butter is a turn and lift. But I'm not against having some road courses. But I don't. I don't. I'm with you. I don't know about adding an a bunch of them, for sure. I'm see, I'm more lean the team of more team, more short tracks, because it's all I can I can agree with that. Anyone conquer. Yeah, I'm looking forward to work frontana brings,...

...you know, with that Short track, that'll be interesting. I would more Martinsville night races to yes, more short tracks under the lights please. Yes, Richmond. I like Richmond. It is a tough, tough, tough place to get a hold of, but I mean, believe or not, it's pretty Arrow dependent there. PHOENIX. I consider a small intermediate track, Super Arrows, super important there. But like Martinsville, obviously you knock your right from fenderoff and actually go fast or because you're cool and your tire better. Bristol asphalt, I used to be a huge fan of racing, isn't quite as good there. I'm not a fan of the pja one stuff. I just don't. I don't like it. It just seems artificial. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. It's like it's it comes up there in the race, your balance changes, you got a good car and then when the pja one's gone, you're no good anymore. And I don't know just they I know what they're trying to do. They're trying to recreate old Bristol. Oh, guess what, we should have just not ruined us. He did a better job with that with the group and they did with the pja one. Oh Yeah, I mean they've knocked you out of the way on dirt or whatever. Does basically only way you could pass. So I really enjoy like gateway OARP. I would much rather go to oarp than Indie road course. That is the biggest letdown of the NASCAR schedule this year going to the Indie road course. Our hundred is terrible to watch as a fan or being at the racetrack. You can't see anything in the race is not that good, but it's still Indianapolis, right. Yeah, like the prestige. I'll never they'll never drop it. Yeah, it's difficult part with. I feel like that's the hardest part with the Nascar Schedules, candy in general. No matter how bad that track is, no matter what they do, it's all fordker. Yeah, if for stock cars, they're never going to drop pit just because it's Indie, obviously, but what is? What did you say? What's old PR or people are bay sense, yeah, or it's in Indie. Two, it's just a short track a few miles away. Oh yeah, that's that's right next to the drag strip or whatever. Yeah, that's a that's a Sarah night under lights. Everyone's going to be now fans of each other after the race. Yeah, Ezy Drag Auto Club short track is sounding cool to that, because isn't it like bill, like Bardsville? But, as the banking up person, it's going to be that combination. That's what they're yeah, I think it's to be with a slate. They're gonna be like the slighted front stretched turn. Yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, like I said, more short tracks. I'm good with it, just it creates better racing. Yeah, percient, the superspeedways are exciting cause thereby ricks right. I mean, people like to watch that. They're three by three and you know it just whatever. But yeah, I don't really like you feel. But TWA egg coming up speech speaking...

...of Super Sideways. So I mean, honestly, we're not going to be up there fighting for the win all race because we know they're going to Rick Right. So in the PASSILIA points position we're in. Yeah, we use the stage points and I had just better to go from the win then just go for points overall. I I mean I really be there at the end right and in obviously stage points don't pay any money either. So even if you get the same amount of points, you know you could run up front get stage points for wreck out early, or you could not get stage points to be there at the end and get the same amount of points, finish higher up and get a better paycheck. You know what I mean. So there's a little bit of that aspect in until you got to be mindful of and you know, at the end of the day nobody gets a crap where you finishing the stage. It's already finish at the end of the day. So yeah, for sure, one another day. Twenty five hundred. Those two. What's that? He sometimes you don't want another day? Two five hundred. Yeah, not from this year. Yeah, yeah, thirteen. Oh, that's sucked. was that made it a hardware race to watch. Once they got back first, mad because he so watch the race for thirteen laps and then left. I watch thirteen laughs. there. What's the final couple in the hotel? Oh, so you're there. I was there. Yeah, I was at the entire speed weeks and I had to go home because we were driving home and stuff like that and work in school, so I couldn't really stay for late at night. For whenever I got you. Yeah, they told him. Man freaking always has a rain delay, it seems like it, and it's just not what it used to. The last year when trump came, was pretty cool. The place was going crazy. There was a ton of people and, I don't know, just the bibles and tracks. Now without the fan it just sneak without the fans just seem the same. So yeah, hopefully, like I think it, Darlington we're actually getting people in the garage again. So that'd be nice. Yeah, that's that's what the report of sayings. That'd be. That'd be cool seat and darling. Darlington coming up soon, isn't it? After tall daggers at Kansas, after Tower Kansas, Kansas, Dover then Darlington, I believe. Yeah, that'll be that'll be nice to see Dover Ruins a stretch of good races. Wait is yeah, it's so. It's a I mean it's pretty Badass to be there in person, but the race is terrible, right, you can't pass. Yeah, it's but I mean they are very fast there and just to kind of see the car drop off into one it's pretty impressive. But I'm with it's not a it's not a great race, which is obviously probably while they move on Nashville, which I don't think Nashville Super Speedway is gonna Provide you with a much better race to watch personally air ground. So definitely a grounds will be at yeah, I think they're. Eventually. I think eventually it'll be something to do with the fairgrounds, if not a street course and downtown Ashville. Eventually, I think they're trying that way. I'd be crazy. All right, I don't know how much what your time...

...situation is. Good, man, I'm home now. It's not past my bedtime yet. For sure to go past twice betimes a twelve. We're just so where? where? Where are you all from? Me and Nick are from Sand Oh, my engineers from Canada and Jersey, and then I'm from Michigan. So okay, yeah, right, uh. When I when I hear the news of the Chicago Street course, it was a little I was a little sad about that with penskis comments right before Nascar announced that. And now we wanted to get a double header and I was like bellisle, motor city, what? Then they announced Chicago and I was like, Dang, I would have been that have been crazy. But yeah, we're all we're all scattered about. So kind of funny get hooked up on this doing this podcast together and go ahead try. You orchestrated. So like a couple years ago I created like a group to on Instagram and all these guys aside of they wanted to join it. So we've kind of developed the front ship. And fast forward like September last year. I kind of want to subt hammers, like made our it was like me when I talked about it in the one group chat. I think you decided in like July or August. Yeah, it was definitely summer months. Yeah, because there's just before playoffs. It was we want to span, so we started a podcast. Let's go. Definitely been a ride so far. Yeah, it's been. It's been fairly enjoyable. I really do like it at it definitely keeps me more and mussure. Oh Yeah, Oh yeah, it always gets better around playoff time. Play off time is like Prime Pole. You always got all we all got different drivers. It's all like draft kings and stuff too. Or now we have our own like we have our fantasy group or in the nothing crazy, not to break, but I went from blast a second right now I'm just saying, yeah, just no way to go, man. Yeah, it's no leaning. Just about all seasons. I'll come back. Welcome back, and it's going to come back letter in the playoffs. He's gonna go from forth, like ten points back and he's gonna just beat us by like five points each. Yeah, Oh, but I think we're pretty I don't have yeah, if you want to shout out anyways, people can get a Hooli of social media wized this that word to find you. Yeah, obviously you can catch everything I'm doing at spire motor sports, instagram, facebook, twitter, and then my instagram and facebook and twitter is our sparks underscore seven. Usually try to give a little update every now and again. You probably see a lot of my knees casty. She does some legend car racing or...

...she's going to start this year. That's actually where I was today. So after work we rented a track outside of Charlotte Motor speedway into his test session with her. She just turned twelve. Hoping the legend car. She did some dirt race and every move bit speedway the last four years. So she's up and coming. So I spend so where I'm not racing. I'm I'm racing with her, so it's pretty much all I do. But, like I said, follow a spot spire motor sports. They need to follow as bad anyways. See a new team and all that. So we're trying to get that hyped up a little bit and get the Graham on fire like that shaluteride this weekend. It was pretty sweet. That was nice scheme. Yeah, it's had some kick asking so far this you know, honestly, when they rebuild it I was like yeah, I'm not a big flame guy right, but on the track it look pretty sick. I thought it looked good. But like the lights, under the lights, that scheme is beautiful. So like it is like under or Matt White. And then the the sponsor decals were gloss and then they had that fluorescence seven. It was pretty slick. I like it. The seven definitely like makes the scheme with the way they have that lorescing on it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure for us, and is never bad. Yeah for sure. But Um, you don't want to I mean, let me keep you too long? Yeah, if I feel long. But definitely been fun for Ye. Thank you for thanks. Good luck next week because we have sort of a curse. I just hope you guys. Promise you, it can't get any worse than the first seven weeks. Really, honestly, we've had terrible blood. So right, your curse is not scare me. We turn it around a little bit this week. We're going to start heading in the right direction. But Hey, thanks for having me all, sue, I was more happy to do it and I'll be glad to come back and talk race anytime. You guys won't. Yeah, we're going to need you back on eventually. said. Yeah, I'll say the one thing we did get away with. We got we had James Davis on her, James Davison on before Ye's been and he had his best finish of the season so far. So we're turning kind of broken, kind of broaching that sling early on and then he had his best finish of the season. So well, they did by his teammate a crash on the back stage at March. But Hey, we expected our here first as well. As long as you get there. So that's true. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, thank you so much for being on. Yeah, thank you for coming on. Yeah, thanks absolutely, guys. We all have a good night and stay in touch and good luck on the podcast. Now I'll be listening from here on out. So if you have any follower spotify, Youtube podcast, we're coming to take over his podcast. I would love to get him. Oh Yeah, we did him on the do need Corey on here? We needed when we need the spot are on there too, so just make it wrap up all three whole team. Yeah, seems that work for me. They might be a little too...

...wild, but we might get work on spattering chord. Oh Yeah, for sure. Yeah, oh on God, ad be sweet. All right, boys. Well, y'all, have a good night. Thanks for having me, and I yea you too, man. All Right, thanks, thank you. That was how I was a that was a good guess. That was a lot of fun. I had fun with that. Was a lot funny. He was one of the better one. So you. He wasn't Lasar, but he was up there. Honestly, all the guys we've had this season, it's been pretty fun to have on. Yeah, we've got a good streak going. I hate you so much talking about other kind of stuffs than REX. I hate he's gonna suck. WHO's gonna Suck? I'm gonna go with her. You know, talking, Bro I don't care. The youngest one here. Wait, did you try? I don't want to talk over Ryan sparks, but the king called Troy twelve on than him. I think I did. Definitely did try. Said something, something, and I'm like, Troy, you like five, three and twelve. You know what? I'm gonna Follow Shorey Nick, just for the memes and say that trix is gonna suck. They didn't sweep sweet are. Why would I do that? Because you got to be realistic. Yeah, it's Talladega. Oh, I got to be realistic. Car My own personal opinion, and my opinion is the only one that matters. Martin Jiggs, do you know? Thanks for watching and I special thanks again for Ryan sparks for joining the podcast and give us some insight on the season and some more things in the future. We' really appreciate it. Good luck next week and thanks for watching a podcast as far and I say and fifty times. Yeah, you do, yeah, you do. Don't forget to watch us on spotify. Watch us on spot to Google, Google podcast, apple podcast. Yeah, that is. And make sure, I guess the Talladegga Stream. Yes, make sure the tuning streaming, the Talladega things somewhere. Just check out my story and everything to keep you updating everything and and yeah, like subscribe. We review all that stuff and we'll see you next.

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